{"id":847649,"date":"2025-12-04T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-12-04T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=847649"},"modified":"2025-12-04T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2025-12-04T09:00:00","slug":"vogue-etiquette-jon-batiste-and-lisa-eisner-on-diamond-decorum-and-jewelry-dos-and-donts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=847649","title":{"rendered":"Vogue Etiquette: Jon Batiste and Lisa Eisner on Diamond Decorum and Jewelry Dos and Don\u2019ts"},"content":{"rendered":"<article class=\"article main-content\" lang=\"en-US\">\n<div class=\"ArticlePageLedeBackground-JMVDp bIwRjk\">\n<header class=\"SplitScreenContentHeaderWrapper-bqcckH dgwopC content-header article__content-header\" data-testid=\"SplitScreenContentHeaderWrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf bwWKDe grid grid-items-2 grid-full-bleed grid-no-gap SplitScreenContentHeaderMain-fSAWSb hvqZwq with-divider-desktop inset\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV dORtPa grid--item\">\n<div class=\"SplitScreenContentHeaderTitleBlock-dgZlN efyluZ\">\n<div class=\"content-header-text\">\n<div data-testid=\"ContentHeaderRubric\" class=\"SplitScreenContentHeaderRubricWrapper-nqSty jVvtgm\">\n<div class=\"RubricWrapper-dZIqzO bjIFnB SplitScreenContentHeaderRubric-cwlQXZ gpqlVr\"><span class=\"RubricName-gkORYq fCauaT rubric__name rubric\"><span>Oh, Behave!<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h1 data-testid=\"ContentHeaderHed\" class=\"BaseWrap-sc-gzmcOU BaseText-eqOrNE SplitScreenContentHeaderHed-kNzeIR deqABF hRonzj ksbTin\"><em>Vogue<\/em> Etiquette: Jon Batiste and Lisa Eisner on Diamond Decorum and Jewelry Dos and Don\u2019ts<\/h1>\n<div class=\"accreditation-info\">\n<div data-testid=\"BylinesWrapper\" class=\"BylinesWrapper-vmGrt cZzmZD bylines SplitScreenContentHeaderByline-kAWXxZ gsrbkL\"><span class=\"BylineWrapper-jRoBEm jCAOou byline bylines__byline\" data-testid=\"BylineWrapper\"><span 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class=\"SplitScreenContentHeaderLeadWrapper-jIJSOL fQVnZP\">\n<div data-testid=\"ContentHeaderLeadAsset\" class=\"SplitScreenContentHeaderLedeBlock-fGKVV gmulNX\"><span class=\"SpanWrapper-zEXFr koTknX responsive-asset SplitScreenContentHeaderLede-bBfGxM eLdpCA\"><source media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/assets.vogue.com\/photos\/69315f26915e0e58cd69ea28\/master\/w_120,c_limit\/VogueEisner_Batiste.jpg 120w, https:\/\/assets.vogue.com\/photos\/69315f26915e0e58cd69ea28\/master\/w_240,c_limit\/VogueEisner_Batiste.jpg 240w, https:\/\/assets.vogue.com\/photos\/69315f26915e0e58cd69ea28\/master\/w_320,c_limit\/VogueEisner_Batiste.jpg 320w, https:\/\/assets.vogue.com\/photos\/69315f26915e0e58cd69ea28\/master\/w_640,c_limit\/VogueEisner_Batiste.jpg 640w, https:\/\/assets.vogue.com\/photos\/69315f26915e0e58cd69ea28\/master\/w_960,c_limit\/VogueEisner_Batiste.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 SplitScreenContentHeaderGrid-kzWXVM cEYGpi align-end\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"CaptionWrapper-jYrTxZ jNLyNY caption SplitScreenContentHeaderCaption-jdBsAm gFMjJo\" data-testid=\"caption-wrapper\"><span class=\"BaseWrap-sc-gzmcOU BaseText-eqOrNE CaptionCredit-eowWKH deqABF mdLVF gxwcqg caption__credit\">Illustration by Joana Avilez<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<\/div>\n<div data-attribute-verso-pattern=\"article-body\" class=\"ArticlePageContentBackGround-dcEtzE dRBcvG article-body__content\">\n<div class=\"ArticlePageChunksContent-enJWmu ilcJfn\">\n<div data-testid=\"ArticlePageChunks\" class=\"ArticlePageChunks-fwcPjP cOribe\">\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><em>In 1948,<\/em> Vogue <em>published its 658-page<\/em> Book of Etiquette, <em>compiled by editor Millicent Fenwick, featuring how-tos, dos and don\u2019ts, and the proper politesse for a remarkably varied set of scenarios. But as Fenwick writes in the introduction: \u201cEtiquette is based on tradition, and yet it can change.\u201d Some 75 years later,<\/em> Oh, Behave! <em>is a new monthly<\/em> Vogue <em>column in which experts sound off on today\u2019s ever-evolving social etiquette.<\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>Once upon a time, kingdoms literally legislated style. Medieval sumptuary laws dictated who could wear what\u2014velvet for nobles, pearls for the pious, gold for the crown. Dress above your rank and you risked more than a side-eye; it was a punishable offense. These days, the only monarchs policing jewelry are your group chat and Instagram comments\u2014but make no mistake, sparkle still comes with rules.<\/p>\n<p>For this month\u2019s <em>Oh, Behave!<\/em>, <em>Vogue<\/em> turns to two masters of ornamentation. Lisa Eisner\u2014the L.A. jeweler, photographer, and patron saint of Western maximalism\u2014has long believed jewelry should be worn loudly (\u201cJewelry has a noise,\u201d she says. \u201cI must sound like a wind chime to most people\u201d). Opposite her sits Jon Batiste, the Oscar-, Grammy-, and Golden Globe\u2013winning musician whose taste in jewels rivals his talent\u2014and who, when not releasing rootsy records like his new album <em>Big Money<\/em>, is writing odes to candy necklaces with Lana Del Rey.<\/p>\n<p>Together, they tackle life\u2019s most glittering dilemmas: how to tell Granny you\u2019d like to inherit her ring, whether reworking an heirloom is sacrilege or self-expression, and the eternal question\u2014can you ever really wear too much jewelry? (Lisa: \u201cYou can\u2019t.\u201d Jon: \u201cDepends who you are.\u201d)<\/p>\n<figure class=\"AssetEmbedWrapper-fkZDUs kHRAYC asset-embed\">\n<div class=\"AssetEmbedAssetContainer-eEeytc eRSvCP asset-embed__asset-container\"><span class=\"SpanWrapper-zEXFr koTknX responsive-asset AssetEmbedResponsiveAsset-cIfZLr fHIkTW asset-embed__responsive-asset\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Vogue Etiquette Jon Batiste and Lisa Eisner on Diamond Decorum and Jewelry Dos and Donts\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"ResponsiveImageContainer-eNxvmU cfBbTk responsive-image__image\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/header9.jpg\" title=\"header9\"><\/span><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong><em>Vogue:<\/em> How do you tell granny you\u2019d like to inherit a piece from her collection?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I would just take it! Because granny\u2019s mind is not so hot. It would probably be like, \u201cOh granny, what happened to that?\u201d And then secretly put it in your pocket. Or, \u201cGranny, you know what, I\u2019m worried that something\u2019s going to happen to that, so why don\u2019t you let me just hold on to it for a while in safekeeping?\u201d Convince her that you\u2019re the one who will keep it safe from anyone else taking it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> You don\u2019t. That\u2019s wild. You just hope and pray.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s the etiquette for borrowing jewelry from family?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Oh, God. I have people do that all the time from me. Let me just tell you: If people borrow my jewelry, the one thing that I request is that you can\u2019t wear your perfume\u2014I\u2019m like an anti-perfume person. I\u2019d rather it come back smelling like someone\u2019s B.O. than someone\u2019s perfume.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> You do it and you return it before they notice. It\u2019s family. It\u2019s all about us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you rework a family heirloom, or is that disrespectful?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Absolutely. I think that\u2019s fantastic! Especially if it\u2019s the difference between you wearing it and not wearing it. Repurposing is a beautiful thing, especially with stones, or even if you melt the gold down and make something else, I like that. But if you\u2019re going to melt it down, I want that goal to be making a new piece of jewelry rather than selling the gold\u2014you get more bang for your buck.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Everything just evolves over time. I think that it\u2019s okay.<\/p>\n<aside aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-TKIUW EyjjJ\" data-testid=\"pullquote-embed-deemphasized\">\n<div class=\"PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-lixSTo jszRRS\">\n<p>\u201cLet me just tell you: If people borrow my jewelry, the one thing that I request is that you can\u2019t wear your perfume\u2014I\u2019m like an anti-perfume person. I\u2019d rather it come back smelling like someone\u2019s B.O. than someone\u2019s perfume.\u201d \u2013Lisa Eisner<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p><strong>Do you have to be an aristocrat to wear a signet ring?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> No! That\u2019s so funny. What even is an aristocrat anymore\u2014are you kidding? You can just be a penniless bohemian for sure. I mean, why not even make your own signet ring with your own family crest? That\u2019s just completely make-believe. Like, who cares? I\u2019m sure half the aristocrats have fake crests anyway.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Absolutely not. You can wear anything as long as you have the intentionality behind it and the soul to pull it off.<\/p>\n<p><strong>After such a high\u2010profile museum robbery at the Lourve, should you take extra precautions when wearing rare gems publicly?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I guess I would be careful, but what a drag! If you have something to show off but cannot wear it to a few fancy parties\u2014not so fun just wearing it around the house. Also, if you\u2019re that rich to buy, I suppose you have bodyguards and lots of security. Or maybe you get a duplicate costume piece made and wear that. People do that with paintings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>If a piece has murky historical origins (stolen jewels! shady provenance!),\u00a0are you less attracted to it? Where would you draw the line and not wear it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Why would you even buy it if there is no value or if it is hard to sell? Unless you take it apart and make a new necklace. But honestly, I feel those things\u2014jewels have energy, and I wouldn\u2019t want that energy around me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is it ever acceptable for a married man or woman to take off their wedding bands?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I think that is kind of weird, honestly. Wedding bands, after a while, they\u2019re almost built into your skin, and they\u2019re really hard to take off because they\u2019ve been stuck there, and your knuckles get bigger, and I think it\u2019s harder and harder the older you get. It\u2019s just like a permanent thing. You can never get it off.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> If it\u2019s getting repaired, sure. Or if it\u2019s getting upgraded. Always wear the wedding band.<\/p>\n<p><strong>If you want an engagement ring \u201cupgrade,\u201d how do you ask for one?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Like, if it\u2019s a really small diamond and you want a bigger one? That\u2019s a little embarrassing. It\u2019s like telling somebody their penis is too little or something. But I guess you could say, \u201cThis is just my thing, but my hands are <em>so big.<\/em> It has nothing to do with the diamond. It\u2019s just my hands are so big.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> You don\u2019t wear it. You don\u2019t wear the current one, and you just wait for them to notice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How can you tell a significant other that you don\u2019t love a jewelry gift?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I\u2019ve been through this so many times! I always think this is wrong, but some people will keep something, even if they hate it, just because their husband gave it to them. Well, first of all, you have to just make it clear that it\u2019s best before they buy anything, for them to talk to your best friend or your sister or someone who knows what you want. My husband\u2019s given me things where he went out and got something, and I\u2019m like, \u201cDo you even know who I am?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Well, my wife and I have a very honest and forthright relationship. If she didn\u2019t like it or if I didn\u2019t like it, we\u2019d say that to each other directly. But if this is advice for other folks that don\u2019t have that kind of relationship, then I would suggest they hint at giving it to somebody else as a gift.<\/p>\n<aside aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-TKIUW EyjjJ\" data-testid=\"pullquote-embed-deemphasized\">\n<div class=\"PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-lixSTo jszRRS\">\n<p>Jewelry from an ex? \u201cBurn it. You shouldn\u2019t keep it. Items have a spiritual energy to them. Purge and evolve; catharsis and release.\u201d \u2013Jon Batiste<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p><strong>What should you do with jewelry from an ex?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Well, it depends on how much you like it. But just make it feel like it has no memories\u2014think of it as a piece you got at a vintage or antique store. But if you <em>really<\/em> hate them, sell it or melt it down. Or, give it to your granddaughter or something.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Burn it. You shouldn\u2019t keep it. Items have a spiritual energy to them. Purge and evolve; catharsis and release.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is it still common etiquette to return the ring if an engagement is broken off?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> If you break it off, maybe you go, \u201cListen, you probably want this back.\u201d If they break it off, you keep it. Are you kidding?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> There are all types of different scenarios. There\u2019s no one-size-fits-all. Generally, the most graceful thing to do across the board would be to give it back, but in some circumstances, that\u2019s a radical act. But if she has the ring because he\u2019s already proposed to her, it\u2019d be nice if she gave it back, but it\u2019s not necessary.<\/p>\n<p><strong>After a divorce, what should you do with the engagement ring?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Give it to your kids if you have kids with them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t think about that one too much.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you wear diamonds to the gym, or is that too extravagant?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Sometimes, I feel like if you go to the gym and <em>don\u2019t<\/em> have diamonds on, they\u2019re not gonna let you in\u2014that\u2019s basically how it is here [in Los Angeles] anyway! Especially if you\u2019re sweating and you\u2019re all sloppy. It\u2019s like, at least you\u2019re a rich woman working out.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Because I\u2019m a stage performer and I\u2019m also someone who is really considered a fashion plate, I go back and forth. So sometimes you can catch me in places with diamonds on, like the gym or the subway. Other times, it\u2019ll be the complete opposite, and there\u2019s no rhyme or reason to it. Sometimes I\u2019ll have residue from an event the night prior, and I just go with it. The energy will still be on me or the desire to keep the diamonds on, so I\u2019ll just go with it.<\/p>\n<aside aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-TKIUW EyjjJ\" data-testid=\"pullquote-embed-deemphasized\">\n<div class=\"PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-lixSTo jszRRS\">\n<p>\u201cSometimes, I feel like if you go to the gym and <em>don\u2019t<\/em> have diamonds on, they\u2019re not gonna let you in\u2014that\u2019s basically how it is here [in Los Angeles] anyway!\u201d \u2013Lisa Eisner<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p><strong>Should you sleep in your jewelry?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I find it very hard to sleep in jewelry. I can\u2019t sleep in earrings. No way! I have a St. Christopher that I never take off, but even when I go to sleep, I take that off. Unless you have that Cartier screw bracelet that you can never take off, you can take it off.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Sleep in it. I slept in it last night. I wear jewelry, but I don\u2019t wear tons of things. I mostly wear necklaces and pinky rings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Are anklets and toe rings chic or tacky?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I love an anklet! I mean a toe ring\u2014sure, if you can pull it off. Somebody could make it look fantastic. Depends on you. Depends on your toes. They can be ugly or good.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Definitely not for me. It\u2019s a deterrent. I\u2019ve never seen it and liked it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Should you wear a watch with evening wear?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> You know, the older you get, the worse your eyes get, and those dials tend to be small. So like an evening watch, it\u2019s so chic. It\u2019s basically just a bracelet because you\u2019re not even looking at it as a watch. If you need the time, you\u2019re just going to look at your phone.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> I\u2019m a huge watch guy, so it takes a lot for me to want to put on a watch, but when I do put on a watch, I\u2019ve researched it a lot. I mean, you can wear a watch with evening wear, but it really has to be elegant. It\u2019s only certain brands that have watches that I feel like are elegant enough. Patek Philippe, the IWC 18-karat Calatrava, or the yellow gold 30mm Calatrava. I wore a great one, I believe it was to the Oscars. And there\u2019s a new brand, J.N. Shapiro, which connects to a certain elegance. I\u2019ve worn Cartier watches, which have that elegance to them; I\u2019ve probably worn those the most of all. Oh, and Berneron. You know, I gave you my top five. I can\u2019t give out all my secrets.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong>What about Apple Watches or fitness trackers with eveningwear?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Maybe a fitness tracker is a little far\u2014I\u2019m not sure if I could find the exception. Though people wear their Aura rings with their diamonds, I guess that\u2019s okay.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> You know, when the Apple Watch first came out, I did an endorsement for them. I like them more as a utilitarian device, which is what got me into it in the first place. To keep track of your health, your life, your energy\u2014and you don\u2019t want to have to think about it\u2014that\u2019s what I like about them. But I don\u2019t know if I like them as eveningwear, though. Definitely not actually.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When traveling, should you bring the real pieces, alternatives, or a mix?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I make big jewelry with 24-karat gold. So when I travel, I love bringing my bronze pieces instead\u2014you can throw \u2019em around. One, gold is heavier; bronze is lighter. And when you\u2019re traveling, you don\u2019t feel so precious about it. Having a hundred thousand dollars of gold traveling around with you\u2014who wants to freaking worry about that?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong>\u00a0I carry some of them with me, but I do so in a very unauthorized way. I just wrap them in a silk scarf, put them in a jewelry bag, and put them in my luggage. It\u2019s not even so fancy; it\u2019s like an old scarf with holes in it.<\/p>\n<aside aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-TKIUW EyjjJ\" data-testid=\"pullquote-embed-deemphasized\">\n<div class=\"PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-lixSTo jszRRS\">\n<p>Can you ask someone who their jeweler is? \u201cSure, but it\u2019s like asking who their therapist is.\u201d \u2014Jon Batiste<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p><strong>Is \u201clab or mined?\u201d a polite question, and do you ever need to disclose?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> I mean, do people even want that much detail? It\u2019s like, \u201cOh, it\u2019s lab!\u201d I don\u2019t even know if people give a shit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> I think that if you are an activist, then it makes sense. But if you are doing it based on a status test, then you\u2019re a jerk. I love the fact that a lot of the diamonds that I wear, if it\u2019s not for a specific brand and it\u2019s in my waking life, they are lab-grown\u2014but I don\u2019t wanna tell people that.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong>Can you ask someone how many carats their engagement ring is?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Yeah. I think you can. Maybe it\u2019s a little tacky, but maybe they want you to ask! I mean, I never have, I\u2019d rather say \u201cWhoa, you could skate on that rock!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> The same answer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you ask someone who their jeweler is?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Yeah. And then it\u2019d be interesting to see if they <em>actually<\/em> give you that information. But then again, if it\u2019s like James de Givenchy or one of those guys, I\u2019m sure they\u2019d be happy to tell you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Sure, but it\u2019s like asking who their therapist is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there such a thing as too much jewelry on a woman?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> You\u2019re asking <em>me<\/em> that question? I love jewelry when it\u2019s almost like a musical instrument. Jewelry has a noise. And I never thought about it until people are like, \u201cOh no! I could never wear that! That would drive me crazy.\u201d And I think, \u201cGod, I must sound like a wind chime to most people!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Depends on the woman and the jewelry itself. I think everything is one-to-one.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there such a thing as too much jewelry on a man?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eisner:<\/strong> Yeah, that can drive me crazy, actually\u2014but not if you\u2019re Liberace! That was cool. There are always exceptions. You know when guys have a gazillion of those beaded bracelets tangled and jumbled into a knot? That can sometimes drive me crazy. But then they\u2019re the guys in Santa Fe who have concho belts and the matching bolos and giant turquoise braces and the rings and the belt buckle. And I\u2019m like, \u201cAre you kidding? This is the greatest thing I ever saw!\u201d So there are exceptions to those rules. I mean, do I wanna date one of those guys? I\u2019m not sure. But they are amazing!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"GridWrapper-cFSKbf fubVbh grid grid-margins grid-items-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hkPQhP fKzBeN\" data-journey-hook=\"grid-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"GridItem-beYvyV bRelOV grid--item\">\n<div class=\"BodyWrapper-kzyFNv nCpFP body body__container article__body\" data-journey-hook=\"client-content\" data-testid=\"BodyWrapper\">\n<div class=\"body__inner-container\">\n<p><strong>Batiste:<\/strong> Same thing. One-to-one. You wouldn\u2019t say that if you were talking about Slick Rick. But you might say that if you were talking about the Pope. It\u2019s not about shining and status. To me, it\u2019s more a form of self-expression, and self-expression ties into who you are in the world and what you represent. So it\u2019s all connected to that.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p> Source URL: http:\/\/vogue.com\/article\/jewelry-etiquette-lisa-eisner-jon-batiste<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Oh, Behave! 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