{"id":840336,"date":"2025-12-03T13:05:00","date_gmt":"2025-12-03T10:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=840336"},"modified":"2025-12-03T13:05:00","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T10:05:00","slug":"has-substack-entered-its-slop-era","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=840336","title":{"rendered":"Has Substack entered its slop era?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"article-body wrapper\">\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><span>As a writer in New York, I couldn\u2019t count on two hands the number of times I\u2019ve been told to \u201cstart a Substack\u201d. After launching in 2017, the online publishing platform has, slowly but steadily, been attracting some of the most exciting emerging and established writers of the moment. The promise to make the internet better for writers and readers \u2013 to give writers the power to directly reach and keep track of their audience and make money directly from their subscribers \u2013 is compelling amid media layoffs and an unreliable freelance market. So compelling, in fact, that it\u2019s easy to feel left behind, or not ahead of the curve, to be a writer who <\/span><em><span>doesn\u2019t<\/span><\/em><span> have a Substack. (I still swear I\u2019ll join one day.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Over time, Substack started drawing comparisons to other social media platforms, especially by those who saw the platform as a slower, more intention refuge from scrolling through slop. As interest grew in a space for writers and readers, and stories shared about people making six figures on the platform, it made sense that more and more people wanted to join. The likes of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/pattismith.substack.com\/\"><span>Patti Smith<\/span><\/a><span> and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/pamelaanderson.substack.com\/\"><span>Pamela Anderson<\/span><\/a><span> started sharing weekly thoughts and musings. Then, Substack launched <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/on.substack.com\/p\/introducing-notes\"><span>Notes for short-form content in 2023<\/span><\/a><span>, and influencers, publications and brands like <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/americaneagle.substack.com\/\"><span>American Eagle<\/span><\/a><span> and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/whatshouldiwear.substack.com\/\"><span>Tory Burch<\/span><\/a><span> flocked to the platform. <\/span><span>This year alone, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/goodthinggoing.substack.com\/about\"><span>Lena Dunham<\/span><\/a><span>, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/@lilyallen697359\/note\/c-170348370\"><span>Lily Allen<\/span><\/a><span>, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/rosalia.substack.com\/\"><span>Rosal\u00eda<\/span><\/a><span>, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/journal.hitrecord.org\/?utm_campaign=profile_chips\"><span>Joseph Gordon Levitt<\/span><\/a><span>, and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/hannahneeleman.substack.com\/\"><span>Ballerina Farm<\/span><\/a><span> have joined Substack. Last month, Charli XCX posted a photo of her laptop to Instagram, captioning it \u201c<\/span><span>I wrote on Substack &lt;3\u201d. Her <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/itscharlibb.substack.com\/p\/running-on-the-spot-in-a-dream\"><span>first post<\/span><\/a><span> has over 11 thousand likes. Even this week, Lizzo wrote a think piece on cancel culture, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lizzobeeating\/?hl=en\"><span>saying<\/span><\/a><span>, \u201cI\u2019m having too much fun on Substack yall\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>It\u2019s important not to get too exclusive with who can or can\u2019t be considered a writer (institutions have been doing exactly this for decades). It is, however, fair to say that once even our favourite celebrities and brands join a space, it\u2019s no longer exactly the same. Also, just because there\u2019s a current level of social capital that comes from being a cultural critic and thought leader, doesn\u2019t mean everyone is taking the time, care and research required to become one. <\/span>(Cue <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/tag\/fka-twigs\">FKA twigs<\/a> with, \u201cWhere are the thinkers?\u201d) <span>\u201cThis is supposed to be a space for us to experiment outside of traditional media, and instead we\u2019re getting more slop,\u201d writer Najma Sharif <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/@najmasharif\/note\/c-177353871?r=9u48e&amp;utm_source=notes-share-action&amp;utm_medium=web\"><span>recently posted on Notes<\/span><\/a><span>. It\u2019s a shift fashion theorist <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/thatadult\/?hl=en\"><span>Rian Phin<\/span><\/a><span>\u00a0compares to when celebrities started blogging. \u201cIt didn\u2019t destroy blogging; it revealed who could hack it,\u201d she says. \u201cFor the people who joined for the fleeting status of being \u2018in the know\u2019 about this area of the internet, it didn\u2019t last, and neither did they.\u201d Many well-known creatives did get their start on Tumblr, after all.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>While people debate whether the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/@ellaemhoff\/note\/c-175003548\"><span>Substack bubble is \u201cpopping\u201d<\/span><\/a><span>, a Substack representative told me that, at the core, Substack is still very much a place for writers. Substack, which calls itself \u201ca different kind of social media\u201d, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/post.substack.com\/p\/substack-is-a-social-media-app\"><span>has been open<\/span><\/a><span> about how its feed differs from traditional social platforms (most notably, no endless-scroll incentive). \u201cCelebrities and influencers joining doesn\u2019t crowd writers out either; it actually lifts the Substack ecosystem,\u201d they say. \u201cWhen someone like Charli XCX shows up, she brings her community with her.\u201d Today, there are more than 5 million paid subscriptions to writers and creators on Substack, up from 4 million in November 2024.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Still, for writers who rely on paid Substack subscribers to pay rent, the reality is this: people can only read so many newsletters and only subscribe to so many $6 regular newsletters. Ahead, writers who have been on the platform for years weigh in on the celebrification (and potential slop-ification) of Substack.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>ZACHARY ZANE, <a href=\"https:\/\/zacharyzane.substack.com\/\">BOYSLUT ZINE<\/a><\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"instagram-container embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"media-instagram\" data-script-depends=\"instagram-embeds\">\n<script async src=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>When and why did you join Substack?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Zachary Zane: <\/strong><span>I started my Substack in May of 2020. I was worried I\u2019d get kicked off Instagram, not for breaking the guidelines, but because Instagram loves to suspend the accounts of sex-positive writers. So I wanted a backup platform where I could reach my audience directly in case I got banned from Instagram.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Has your experience on the platform changed over time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Zachary Zane: <\/strong><span>For the first three years, my Substack grew steadily and healthily. But once I reached 10,000 subscribers, I plateaued (in terms of unpaid subscribers). I had close to 900 paid subscribers, and now that number is down to 550. I have no idea why I\u2019m losing subscribers. I have more essays than before. I have additional writers contributing to the BOYSLUT Substack. I pay queer authors to illustrate each piece. Perhaps the app is oversaturated, people are moving away from it, or they just don\u2019t want to spend money on articles. Regardless, it\u2019s been frustrating to invest so much time and effort into Substack only to see my subscriber count decrease.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you think Substack is still a space for writers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Zachary Zane: <\/strong><span>S<\/span><span>ubstack, especially in the beginning, paid me so much more than I got from mainstream publications. I was also able to write the content that I wanted to write in my unique voice. But now, I\u2019m not too sure. I\u2019m going back to writing some more SEO-style explainer pieces, as I know introductory 101 sex content tends to do well in terms of traffic. It\u2019s not what I prefer to write, but I need to up my paid subscriber count ASAP. It\u2019s still a place for writers, but it\u2019s harder to make money and get your work out there. I hate to have a scarcity mentality, but I do believe that most people are only willing to pay for one or a couple of Substacks, not ten. And they may be more likely to pay for influencers\u2019 and celebrities\u2019 Substacks than those of emerging writers.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>OTTESSA MOSHFEGH,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ottessathisottessathat.substack.com\/\">IT\u2019S OTTESSA, BITCH<\/a><\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"instagram-container embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"media-instagram\" data-script-depends=\"instagram-embeds\">\n<script async src=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>When and why did you join Substack?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ottessa Moshfegh: <\/strong><span>I started \u2018It\u2019s Ottessa, Bitch\u2019 last fall. As a writer who has no social media, I was extremely wary of getting into anything that was going to eat up my time and energy in a non-creative, unproductive way. Substack looked like a free space where I could control what I publish, how, when and how much or how little I would engage personally with readers. I used to be terrified of the internet and of people in general. I am less so now. Part of why I charge a lot (relatively speaking) on Substack is to ensure that the people who are receiving my special stuff are actually invested in it. I have fewer than 1,000 paid subscribers but nearly 50,000 free subscribers. So there are very, very few people who get to read the deep shit. As it should be.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Has your experience on the platform changed over time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ottessa Moshfegh: <\/strong><span>I\u2019ve learned how to be more efficient, and I&#8217;ve also learned to ignore the statistics and just follow my instincts and publish what comes to me. The beauty of this thing is that it is <\/span><em><span>immediate<\/span><\/em><span>. There\u2019s no editor, copyeditor, proofs or contracts. I\u2019m all for the breakdown of systems, so I am in support of people making their own money. Especially writers. Writers should be in control of what they write and how it gets published. Why do we want a corporate entity filtering everything we read? No. This is an important platform, and however people use it, I think it\u2019s OK.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you think Substack is still a space for writers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ottessa Moshfegh: <\/strong><span>Yes, it\u2019s still a space for writers. The only way, so far, you can make money on the platform is by convincing people to sign up for your special newsletter, access to your complete archive, and so forth. It\u2019s completely fair that there\u2019s this chaotic mess of Notes that people use. Who cares. I don\u2019t care if Substack Notes becomes Old Twitter. People should use it however they want. My Notes feed is just tons of amazing art. It\u2019s wonderful. Maybe the difference between Substack and old Twitter has something to do with the platform being about a publication, and not about a personal identity. \u2018It\u2019s Ottessa, Bitch\u2019 is an intentional project. It has an agenda of its own\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>EMILIA PETRARCA, <a href=\"https:\/\/emiliapetrarca.substack.com\/\">SHOP RAT<\/a><\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"instagram-container embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"media-instagram\" data-script-depends=\"instagram-embeds\">\n<script async src=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>When did you join Substack, and what was it like?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Emilia Petrarca: <\/strong><span>September 2023. People were more willing to give you $5 because there were fewer people to give $5 to.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Has your experience on the platform changed over time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Emilia Petrarca: <\/strong><span>Substack is now my main source of income, which means I can write fewer and better stories as a freelancer and actually get paid in a regular and timely manner. But it\u2019s getting much, much harder for me to grow and retain paid subs. I don\u2019t know how to fix that, but I hope they find a way to further incentivise people to pay. Because I get it, there are just way too many. I\u2019m not paying for all of them, either! I\u2019m checking my feed slightly more because I get more notifications, but every time I spend a few minutes scrolling through Notes, I want to log off. It\u2019s not addicting, which is actually nice. Please don\u2019t make it addicting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you think Substack is still a space for writers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Emilia Petrarca:<\/strong><span> I think Substack is still a space for writers. I read Rosal\u00eda and Charli. I think it\u2019s a cool medium for them. They\u2019re writers. And a lot of people are way worse at it.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>RIAN PHIN, <a href=\"https:\/\/thatadult.substack.com\/?utm_campaign=profile_chips\">CULTURAL PRODUCTION<\/a><\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"instagram-container embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"media-instagram\" data-script-depends=\"instagram-embeds\">\n<script async src=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>When did you join Substack, and what was it like?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rian Phin: <\/strong><span>I started in 2023. It felt really promising and exciting. It was weird and coincidental. I decided to start writing on Substack, and then someone from the platform was assigned to me as my liaison right before I ever published. I never took advantage of that; I wanted to figure it out on my own. It didn\u2019t feel so intimidating back then, honestly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Has your experience on the platform changed over time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rian Phin: <\/strong><span>It seemed really pure a few years ago.<\/span><span>It\u2019s so intimidating to write on Substack now, even though I\u2019ve already started. All of the criticism, think-pieces, harsh tweets and memes about the culture of Substack writers and the archetype of NYC culture writers on Substack really scare me out of publishing on there more often. I think people are more into it to establish themselves as<\/span><em><span> glamorous philosophers<\/span><\/em><span> and for the money now. I&#8217;m so glad people have a place to land and make a living, but the general mass exodus to Substack always worries me. Do people have $6 for every single one of their favourite writers? If writing for Substack was my main source of income, I\u2019d be competing with my oomfs, mutuals and friends for the attention and coin of people in our overlapping audiences.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>How do you think monetisation and influencer culture play into this?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rian Phin: <\/strong><span>Monetisation quickly interrupts the fun sometimes. The objectives of communicating with an audience completely shift away from offering quality information to connect with or even impress like-minded people, and over to being brand-safe, speaking universally, making things marketable \u2013 it\u2019s sad and boring. But I think celebrities and influencers will fall off if they\u2019re not able to provide meaningful value to their audiences, and that\u2019s fine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you think Substack is still a space for writers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rian Phin: <\/strong><span>As long as writers haven\u2019t abandoned the platform, it\u2019s a place for writers. I always check if Rayne Fisher Quann is still publishing there (she is) to gauge things.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>VIV CHEN, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.themolehill.net\/\">THE MOLEHILL<\/a><\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"instagram-container embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"media-instagram\" data-script-depends=\"instagram-embeds\">\n<script async src=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>When did you join Substack, and what was it like?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Viv Chen: <\/strong><span>I registered the name \u2018the molehill\u2019 in 2020 with the intention to blog about fashion, but didn\u2019t write my first newsletter until late 2021. Getting started is the hardest part, I guess. Anyways, my first newsletter was a trend analysis piece on the rise of Polly Pocket aesthetics, and it went out to like 30 people\u2019s inboxes. There was definitely a point in \u2018early Substack\u2019 when it felt exciting because the platform was starting to get a bit of recognition, but not mainstream exposure. Before that sweet spot of nascent coolness, Substack was honestly kind of boring, and there just wasn\u2019t much happening. It was just me typing on my bedroom floor and sending emails out into the ether.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Has your experience on the platform changed over time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Viv Chen: <\/strong><span>When I first started my newsletter, magazines and Substack felt like two worlds that did not overlap, and it was difficult to get a pitch accepted by an editor. That dynamic slowly shifted. The biggest change is that I was able to make fashion writing my full-time job. And, over time, editors started reaching out to me directly with assignments or pitch solicitations. Over the years, I\u2019ve seen how \u2018starting a Substack\u2019 was a lifeline for freelance writers trying to survive the notoriously volatile media industry. And then, of course, other people saw the opportunity to monetise newsletters, such as traditional influencers. I think parasocial relationships have always been incredibly lucrative, and so there will always be money in it regardless of what platform is \u2018hot\u2019 at the moment. Basically, everyone has a Substack now!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you think Substack is still a space for writers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Viv Chen: <\/strong><span>Writers do not all want the same thing out of Substack, so I can\u2019t conceive of what a space for writers really means. As a reader, Substack is very much a social media platform now, especially if you have the app and are on Notes (which I am). That said, you can opt out of those things and just read your newsletters in your email inbox, and I guess that\u2019s how you could experience \u2018lo-fi Substack\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Source URL: https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/life-culture\/article\/69204\/1\/has-substack-entered-its-slop-era<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a writer in New York, I couldn\u2019t count on two hands the number of times I\u2019ve been told to \u201cstart a Substack\u201d. After launching in 2017, the online publishing platform has, slowly but steadily, been attracting some of the most exciting emerging and established writers of the moment. 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