{"id":813932,"date":"2024-08-02T06:11:47","date_gmt":"2024-08-02T03:11:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=813932"},"modified":"2024-08-02T06:11:47","modified_gmt":"2024-08-02T03:11:47","slug":"istoricul-shmuel-poporul-tiganesc-este-descendent-din-tribul-israelit-simeon-incorect-politic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=813932","title":{"rendered":"Istoricul Shmuel: Poporul \u021big\u0103nesc este descendent din tribul israelit Simeon &#8211; Incorect Politic"},"content":{"rendered":"<article class=\"post-listing post-75252 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail  category-problema-tiganeasca category-stirea-zilei tag-istoricul-shmuel-poporul-tiganesc-este-descendent-din-tribul-israelit-simeon\" id=\"the-post\">\n<div class=\"post-inner\">\n<h1 class=\"name post-title entry-title\"><span>Istoricul Shmuel:  Poporul \u021big\u0103nesc este descendent din tribul israelit Simeon<\/span><\/h1>\n<div class=\"entry\">\n<p>Sterie Ciumetti<br \/><strong>Incorect Politic<\/strong><br \/>\nAugust 2, 2024<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/81868327993100640360yes1130-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7783 aligncenter lazyload\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/81868327993100640360yes1130-1.jpg\" title=\"81868327993100640360yes1130-1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7783 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/81868327993100640360yes1130-1.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" data-eio=\"l\" title=\"81868327993100640360yes1130-1\"><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Istoricul Shmuel: Poporul \u021big\u0103nesc este descendent din tribul israelit Simeon<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Noi informa\u021bii scoase la iveal\u0103 de istoricul Shmuel Avukia arat\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 dovezi c\u0103 \u021aiganii se trag din tribul lui Simeon, revendic\u00e2ndu-\u0219i astfel origini israelite, dup\u0103 cum a declarat \u0219i regele \u021biganilor \u00een <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reel\/322278743966239\">acest video<\/a>. Totul a \u00eenceput de la o conferin\u021b\u0103 din 2018.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalisti.ro\/2018\/05\/shmuel-avukia-tiganii-stiu-ca-sunt-de-origine-evreiasca\/\">Nationalisti.ro:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"entry-title post-title\"><strong>Shmuel Avukia: \u201e\u021aiganii \u0219tiu c\u0103 sunt de origine evreiasc\u0103\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Cercet\u0103torul israelian<\/strong>\u00a0a creat Forumul evreiesc-\u021big\u0103nesc dup\u0103 descoperirea leg\u0103turii biblice dintre evrei \u0219i poporul \u021big\u0103nesc.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Desigur\u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>De la publicarea rezultatelor sale de cercetare, a fost contactat de mii de membri ai comunit\u0103\u021bii \u021big\u0103ne\u0219ti \u0219i sute\u00a0<strong>s-au \u00eent\u00e2lnit \u00een Israel<\/strong>\u00a0pentru \u00eent\u00e2lniri cu membrii forumului.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/81868327993100640360yes1130-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7783 aligncenter lazyautosizes lazyloaded tie-appear\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/81868327993100640360yes1130-1.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" title=\"81868327993100640360yes1130-1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>Sute de \u021bigani.<\/strong>\u00a0s-au adunat \u00een Israel pentru conferin\u021be ca urmare a descoperirii de c\u0103tre savan\u021bi a unei leg\u0103turi biblice \u00eentre evrei \u0219i \u021bigani. Potrivit lui Shmuel Avukia din comunitatea lui Kokhav Yaakov, unul dintre organizatorii acestor conferin\u021be, poporul \u021big\u0103nesc este descendent din tribul israelit Simeon.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Deci tribul lui Simeon este str\u0103bunicul \u021biganilor? Asta ar furniza o explica\u021bie pentru c\u00e2teva fenomene\u2026<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/simionfilosemitism.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-44360 aligncenter lazyload\" width=\"770\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/simionfilosemitism.jpg\" title=\"simionfilosemitism\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-44360 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/simionfilosemitism.jpg\" width=\"770\" height=\"540\" data-eio=\"l\" title=\"simionfilosemitism\"><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/simion-sionist.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-74293 aligncenter lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/simion-sionist.jpg\" width=\"822\" height=\"537\" title=\"simion-sionist\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-74293 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/simion-sionist.jpg\" width=\"822\" height=\"537\" data-eio=\"l\" title=\"simion-sionist\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/8186828199099640360yes1130.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7770 aligncenter lazyautosizes lazyloaded tie-appear\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/8186828199099640360yes1130.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" title=\"8186828199099640360yes1130\"><\/a><em>\u021aigani \u0219i jidani c\u00e2nt\u00e2nd celebrul imn Havarmorokar Nagila M\u00e2nca\u021ba\u0219<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201eCu c\u00e2\u021biva ani \u00een urm\u0103, am \u00eenceput s\u0103 studiez temeinic textele biblice\u201d, spune Avukia, care de mai mul\u021bi ani studiaz\u0103 leg\u0103tura evreiasc\u0103-\u021big\u0103neasc\u0103. \u201eNu doar superficial, \u00een ceea ce citim \u00een Torah \u00een fiecare s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103, dar \u00een mai profunzime. \u0218i acolo am dat peste<strong>\u00a0problema \u021biganilor.<\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201eAm descoperit lucruri foarte interesante despre leg\u0103tura lor cu poporul evreu. A fost foarte mare \u0219i am \u00eenceput s\u0103 vorbesc despre asta pu\u021bin pe Facebook \u0219i pe Internet \u0219i a fost un r\u0103spuns imens. Am primit multe reac\u021bii \u0219i am decis s\u0103 realizez un pas mai departe \u0219i s\u0103 creez Forumul evreilor-\u021bigani\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Nu \u0219tim exact din ce texte biblice a descoperit leg\u0103tura, dar a trecut la pasul urm\u0103tor \u0219i a creat forumul evreilor-\u021bigani. Pentru c\u0103 la naiba cu dovezile.<\/p>\n<p>Bine, invoc\u0103 mai jos un citat din cartea Genezei, dar care nu men\u021bioneaz\u0103 defel \u021biganii.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.incorectpolitic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/6a2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7768 size-medium lazyautosizes lazyloaded tie-appear\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/6a2-300x300-1.png\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" title=\"6a2-300x300-1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2><strong>\u201e\u021aiganii \u0219tiu c\u0103 sunt de origine evreiasc\u0103\u201d<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Forumul a avut loc la Ierusalim pentru prima dat\u0103 la \u00eenceputul lunii decembrie 2017. Aproximativ 60 de turi\u0219ti romi din Fran\u021ba au sosit \u00een Israel pentru o serie de \u00eent\u00e2lniri cu Avukia \u0219i al\u021bi membri ai forumului.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Impreun\u0103, au creat un simbol combin\u00e2nd o stea a lui David \u0219i roat\u0103 cu spi\u021be din steagul t\u00edganilor.<\/strong>\u00a0\u00cen timpul adun\u0103rii, Avukia a prezentat rezultatele studiului s\u0103u, care a concluzionat c\u0103 poporul \u021bigan este descendent al tribului lui Simeon.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/gypsy-israelite-flag.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7771 aligncenter lazyautosizes lazyloaded tie-appear\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/gypsy-israelite-flag.png\" width=\"480\" height=\"479\" title=\"gypsy-israelite-flag\"><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>\u201eTiganii stiu ca sunt de origine evreiasca, dar nu au nici o dovada.<\/strong>\u00a0Cred c\u0103 \u00eempreun\u0103 cu cercetarea \u0219i lucrurile pe care le vom \u00eenv\u0103\u021ba despre comunitatea \u021big\u0103neasc\u0103, despre tradi\u021biile \u0219i sursele acesteia, vom putea s\u0103 punem lucrurile \u00eempreun\u0103 \u201d.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>E ca \u0219i cum jidanii \u0219tiu c\u0103 au fost gaza\u021bi la du\u0219uri, chiar dac\u0103 nu au nici o dovad\u0103.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>\u00centr-o conferin\u021b\u0103 adresat\u0103 delega\u021biei \u021big\u0103ne\u0219ti, Avukia a spus c\u0103 primul verset pe care l-a g\u0103sit, indic\u00e2nd leg\u0103tura dintre evrei \u0219i \u021bigani, este din Cartea Genezei: \u201eEsau a spus:\u201d Atunci las\u0103-m\u0103 s\u0103 las pe unii dintre oamenii mei cu voi.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201ePotrivit lui Avukia, interpret\u0103rile mai profunde ale versetului, \u0219i mai ales a \u201ep\u0103r\u0103sirii\u201d lumii, ar putea fi o referire la alte lucruri, \u00een afar\u0103 de sensul literal.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>La ce lucruri? Nu ni se spune.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>\u201eDac\u0103 avem dovada, nu o putem ignora\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Care dovad\u0103? A\u021bi dat un citat din Genez\u0103, din Esau, f\u0103r\u0103 nici o leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu \u021biganii.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/0-e1496309679555.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7775 aligncenter lazyautosizes tie-appear lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/0-e1496309679555.jpg\" width=\"750\" height=\"423\" title=\"0-e1496309679555\"><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>De la publicarea constat\u0103rilor sale, Avukia a fost contactat de mii de membri ai comunit\u0103\u021bii \u021big\u0103ne\u0219ti, iar sute dintre ei au vizitat deja Israel pentru \u00eent\u00e2lniri suplimentare.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Oamenii \u0103\u0219tia sunt s\u0103ri\u021bi de pe fix.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201eSunt \u00een contact cu mai mul\u021bi reprezentan\u021bi ai comunit\u0103\u021bilor \u021big\u0103ne\u0219ti din Fran\u021ba, Finlanda, Spania, Rusia \u0219i chiar Statele Unite\u201d, spune el.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ce te-a condus s\u0103 cau\u021bi o conexiune evreiasc\u0103 care nu a fost niciodat\u0103 dovedit\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/8186831499099640360yes1130.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7781 aligncenter lazyautosizes tie-appear lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/8186831499099640360yes1130.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" title=\"8186831499099640360yes1130\"><\/a><br \/>\n\u201eVedem o leg\u0103tur\u0103 istoric\u0103 \u00eentre oameni.\u00a0<strong>Nazi\u0219tii, de exemplu, au c\u0103utat s\u0103 anihileze doar doi oameni \u2013 evreii \u0219i \u021biganii.<\/strong>\u00a0\u0218i exist\u0103 \u0219i alte contexte istorice. Cred c\u0103 dac\u0103 avem dovezi c\u0103 am g\u0103sit un trib pierdut, nu putem ignora acest lucru. \u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Trebuia s\u0103 se ajung\u0103 \u0219i la nazi\u0219ti ca s\u0103 justifice to\u021bi banii b\u0103ga\u021bi \u00een forumul \u021bigano-jid\u0103nesc.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>Are autoritatea rabinic\u0103 confirmarea cercet\u0103rii dvs.?<\/strong><br \/>\n\u201e\u00cen prezent lucrez la un videoclip \u0219i la o carte care va prezenta toate dovezile \u0219i cercetarea complet\u0103. Dup\u0103 aceea, \u00eel vom prezenta rabinilor \u0219i autorit\u0103\u021bilor halahice.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>Presupun c\u0103 nu o vor accepta.\u00a0<\/strong>\u201e\u00cen mod evident, majoritatea oamenilor vor \u00eencerca s\u0103 o arunce, dar eu urm\u0103resc logica evreiasc\u0103 \u2013 este doar ceea ce pare imposibil s\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2mple \u00een cele din urm\u0103, ca \u0219i \u00eenfiin\u021barea Statului Israel. A fost un vis care p\u0103rea imaginar, dar aici suntem.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201eEste clar un proces, \u0219i suntem doar la \u00eenceputul drumului \u0219i trebuie s\u0103 o facem inteligent \u0219i \u00eencet. Dar dac\u0103 este adev\u0103rul, se va materializa \u00een cele din urm\u0103.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Probabil c\u0103 voiau ca legea lui Vexler s\u0103 afecteze \u0219i anti\u021big\u0103nismul. \u0218i-au \u00eendeplinit dorin\u021ba \u00een 2021 c\u00e2nd a ap\u0103rut <a href=\"https:\/\/www.incorectpolitic.com\/o-noua-lege-liberticida-legea-combaterii-antitiganismului\/\">legea combaterii anti\u021big\u0103nismului<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Urmeaz\u0103 ca istoricii maghiari s\u0103 lanseze o teorie conform c\u0103reia se trag din tribul lui Daniel sau ceva, ca s\u0103 intre \u0219i antiungurismul \u00een legea lui Vexler. Mai avem c\u00e2teva minorit\u0103\u021bi care pot g\u0103si leg\u0103turi fictive cu triburile israelite pentru ca orice discurs antiminoritar s\u0103 intre sub inciden\u021ba legii.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i r\u0103m\u00e2nem cu rom\u00e2nii\u2026care nu au nici o lege s\u0103 \u00eei protejeze.<\/p>\n<p>Daca nu vre\u021bi s\u0103 fie a\u0219a a\u021bi face bine s\u0103 \u00eencepe\u021bi s\u0103 vorbi\u021bi. S\u0103 v\u0103 folosi\u021bi condeiul s\u0103 scrie\u021bi. \u0218i s\u0103 v\u0103 al\u0103tura\u021bi grup\u0103rilor locale de na\u021bionali\u0219ti.<\/p>\n<p>Ap\u0103ra\u021bi-v\u0103 \u021bara sau teatrul acesta absurd ne va \u00eenghi\u021bi.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"share-post\"><span class=\"share-text\">Share<\/span><\/p>\n<ul class=\"flat-social\">\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https:\/\/www.incorectpolitic.com\/?p=75252\" class=\"social-facebook\" rel=\"external\" target=\"_blank\"><span>Facebook<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=Istoricul+Shmuel%3A++Poporul+%C8%9Big%C4%83nesc+este+descendent+din+tribul+israelit+Simeon&amp;url=https:\/\/www.incorectpolitic.com\/?p=75252\" class=\"social-twitter\" rel=\"external\" target=\"_blank\"><span>Twitter<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/pinterest.com\/pin\/create\/button\/?url=https:\/\/www.incorectpolitic.com\/?p=75252&amp;description=Istoricul+Shmuel%3A++Poporul+%C8%9Big%C4%83nesc+este+descendent+din+tribul+israelit+Simeon&amp;media=https:\/\/www.incorectpolitic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/81868327993100640360yes1130-640x330.jpg\" class=\"social-pinterest\" rel=\"external\" target=\"_blank\"><span>Pinterest<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p> Source URL: https:\/\/www.incorectpolitic.com\/istoricul-shmuel-poporul-tiganesc-este-descendent-din-tribul-israelit-simeon\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Istoricul Shmuel: Poporul \u021big\u0103nesc este descendent din tribul israelit Simeon Sterie CiumettiIncorect Politic August 2, 2024 Istoricul Shmuel: Poporul \u021big\u0103nesc este descendent din tribul israelit Simeon Noi informa\u021bii scoase la iveal\u0103 de istoricul Shmuel Avukia arat\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 dovezi c\u0103 \u021aiganii se trag din tribul lui Simeon, revendic\u00e2ndu-\u0219i astfel origini israelite, dup\u0103 cum a declarat \u0219i [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":813933,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[89],"tags":[95],"class_list":["post-813932","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-romania","tag-incorectpolitic-com"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/813932","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=813932"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/813932\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/813933"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=813932"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=813932"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=813932"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}