{"id":804725,"date":"2024-04-09T19:08:00","date_gmt":"2024-04-09T16:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=804725"},"modified":"2024-04-09T19:08:00","modified_gmt":"2024-04-09T16:08:00","slug":"taierile-discretionare-de-onorarii-sunt-istorie-camera-deputatilor-a-dat-vot-final-pe-proiectul-de-lege-al-senatorilor-robert-cazanciuc-daniel-fenechiu-si-cristian-tagarlas-privind-interdic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=804725","title":{"rendered":"TAIERILE DISCRETIONARE DE ONORARII SUNT ISTORIE \u2013 Camera Deputatilor a dat vot final pe proiectul de lege al senatorilor Robert Cazanciuc, Daniel Fenechiu si Cristian Tagarlas privind interdictia taierii cheltuielilor de judecata din oficiu de catre instante. Camera Deputatilor a impus ca reducerea onorariului sa fie atacabila odata cu fondul, nu pe cale separata, pentru a nu aglomera instantele. Au fost exprimate 250 de voturi \u201epentru\u201d si unul \u201eimpotriva\u201d (Documente)"},"content":{"rendered":"<article id=\"article-content\">\n<h1>TAIERILE DISCRETIONARE DE ONORARII SUNT ISTORIE \u2013 Camera Deputatilor a dat vot final pe proiectul de lege al senatorilor Robert Cazanciuc, Daniel Fenechiu si Cristian Tagarlas privind interdictia taierii cheltuielilor de judecata din oficiu de catre instante. Camera Deputatilor a impus ca reducerea onorariului sa fie atacabila odata cu fondul, nu pe cale separata, pentru a nu aglomera instantele. Au fost exprimate 250 de voturi \u201epentru\u201d si unul \u201eimpotriva\u201d (Documente)<\/h1>\n<section id=\"article-info\">\n<p class=\"author\">Scris de: Valentin BUSUIOC | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luju.ro\/taierile-discretionare-de-onorarii-sunt-istorie-camera-deputatilor-a-dat-vot-final-pe-proiectul-de-lege-al-senatorilor-robert-cazanciuc-daniel-fenechiu-si-cristian-tagarlas-privind-interdictia-taierii-cheltuielilor-de-judecata-din-oficiu-de-catre-instante?pdf\" title=\"PDF\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/pdf-459.png\" alt=\"pdf\" title=\"pdf-459\"><\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luju.ro\/taierile-discretionare-de-onorarii-sunt-istorie-camera-deputatilor-a-dat-vot-final-pe-proiectul-de-lege-al-senatorilor-robert-cazanciuc-daniel-fenechiu-si-cristian-tagarlas-privind-interdictia-taierii-cheltuielilor-de-judecata-din-oficiu-de-catre-instante?print=1\" class=\"external\" title=\"Imprimare\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/print-459.png\" alt=\"print\" title=\"print-459\"><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"info flex-container\">\n<div class=\"date\"> 9 April 2024 19:08<\/div>\n<div>Vizualizari: 5107<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<section id=\"article-body\">\n<section id=\"page\" class=\"cf\">\n<div>\n<p><span><span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"225\" width=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/cazanciuc_tagarlas_fenechiu-1.jpg\" title=\"cazanciuc_tagarlas_fenechiu-1\">Camera Deputatilor a votat marti, 9 aprilie 2024, in calitate de for decizional, proiectul de lege al <b>senatorilor Robert Cazanciuc de la PSD, precum si Cristian Niculescu-Tagarlas si Daniel Fenechiu de la PNL <span>(foto de la stanga la dreapta)<\/span><\/b> privind onorariile avocatilor. Presedintele Klaus Iohannis este asteptat sa emita decretul de promulgare.<br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span>Ne referim la initiativa legislativa (semnata nu doar de cei trei parlamentari de mai sus, ci si de catre <b>deputatii PNL Gabriel Andronache, Olivia-Diana Morar si Cristina Traila<\/b>) care le va interzice judecatorilor sa cenzureze din oficiu onorariile. In schimb, magistratii vor putea face acest lucru doar la cererea partilor interesate.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span>Spre deosebire de Senat, Camera Deputatilor a eliminat obligatia ca onorariul sa fie <b>vadit<\/b> disproportionat in raport cu valoarea sau complexitatea cauzei. Am subliniat cuvantul <i>\u201evadit\u201d<\/i>, intrucat el a disparut din versiunea proiectului votata de forul parlamentar inferior.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><b>Taierea onorariului, atacabila doar odata cu fondul<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span>Tot spre deosebire de Senat, Camera Deputatilor a stabilit ca masura completului de judecata de a diminua onorariul va putea fi atacata doar cu fondul, iar nu pe cale separata, pentru a nu se aglomera instantele.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span>In alta ordine de idei: Camera Deputatilor a pastrat prevederea votata in senat potrivit careia vor fi decontate cheltuielile de transport pentru avocati, in conformitate cu protocolul tripartit dintre UNBR, Parchetul General si Ministerul Justitiei.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span>Incheiem, mentionand ca forma definitiva a proiectului a primit 250 de voturi <i>\u201epentru\u201d<\/i> si unul singur <i>\u201eimpotriva\u201d<\/i> (din partea deputatei Anamaria Gavrila). <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><b>Iata cum va arata art. 451 alin. 2 din Codul de procedura civila <span>(vezi facsimil)<\/span>:<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><b><span><br \/><\/span><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><span><b><i>\u201eInstanta va reduce, la cererea partii interesate, partea din cheltuielile de judecata reprezentand onorariul avocatilor, atunci cand acesta este platit disproportionat in raport cu valoarea sau complexitatea cauzei ori cu activitatea desfasurata de avocat, tinand seama de circumstantele cauzei. Motivarea masurii se va raporta la criteriile prevazute de legislatia profesiei de avocat pentru stabilirea onorariului. Masura luata de instanta nu va avea niciun efect asupra raporturilor dintre avocat si clientul sau. In acest caz, masura reducerii cheltuielilor va fi atacata odata cu fondul, iar in cazul hotararilor supuse recursului, precum si celor definitive, cu reexaminare, cererea urmand a fi solutionata de un alt complet al instantei respective\u201d<\/i><\/b><\/span>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><b>Prezentam motivarea noii forme a art. 451 alin. 2 CPC:<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><i><b>\u201ePerspectiva formularii unei cai de atac impotriva unei hotarari pronuntate in apel sau in recurs ar putea conduce la incarcarea rolului Inaltei Curti de Casatie si Justitie, situatie care ar contraveni rolului si menirii acesteia si ar putea conduce la prelungirea termenelor acordate in cauzele aflate pe rol, care in ipoteza textului initial, multe ar intra in competenta Inaltei Curti de Casatie si Justitie\u201d<\/b><\/i>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"843\" width=\"700\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/amendament.jpg\" title=\"amendament\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><b><span><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luju.ro\/vot-final-pe-onorariile-avocatilor-proiectul-senatorilor-robert-cazanciuc-si-daniel-fenechiu-privind-interdictia-taierii-cheltuielilor-de-judecata-de-catre-instante-a-fost-votat-in-unanimitate-senatul-a-adaugat-si-posibilitatea-decontarii-cheltuielilor-de\">* Cititi aici forma proiectului votata de Senat<\/a><\/span><\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span><b><span><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.luju.ro\/instantele-nu-vor-mai-putea-taia-dupa-bunul-plac-onorariile-senatorii-robert-cazanciuc-si-daniel-fenechiu-au-depus-un-proiect-de-lege-care-impiedica-judecatorii-sa-mai-cenzureze-din-oficiu-onorariile-avocatilor-limitarea-onorariilor-de-catre-instanta-se-v\">* Cititi aici versiunea initiala, precum si expunerea de motive<\/a><\/span><\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/section>\n<section id=\"comments-boxes\">\n<div class=\"heading\">\n<h2>Comentarii<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355741\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Cetatean <\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t 9 April 2024 19:38<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+7<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">E o mare prostie, \u00eel las pe dl avocat sa pun\u0103 un onorariu la o prostie de proces 100000 euro \u0219i \u00eel \u00eempiedic pe judecator sa repare\/\u00eendrepte nebunia . Astfel, desi ai dreptate te vei g\u00e2ndi de 100000 de ori sa chemi pe cineva \u00een judecata. Oare &#8220;marele &#8221; avocat s-a g\u00e2ndit c\u00e2nd a venit cu astfel de propunere. Constat pe zi ce trece ca ace\u0219ti indivizi de politicieni \u00ee\u0219i fac legisla\u021bie sa se &#8220;ingrase&#8221; \u0219i sa scape de pu\u0219c\u0103rie, efectiv au \u00eempiedicat organele statului prin legisla\u021bia pe care au  creat-o sa poat\u0103 administra probe, iar atunci c\u00e2nd acestea au reu\u0219it intr-un fel sau altul intervine prescrip\u021bia pentru ca ati impiedicat-o\/ ingreunat-o. De acest lucru ar fi trebuit sa aib\u0103 habar dl fost procuror. Dar unde-i interes ce mai conteaz\u0103. \u00cen loc sa vina cu propuneri pentru a pre\u00eent\u00e2mpina abuzurile uncheselilor, portocalelor s.a., cei doi vin cu o asemenea propunere, oare ce ar mai fi de zis?<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355741\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355741\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355741\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355742\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Avocatul din oficiu trebuie platit cat procurorul de sedinta<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t 9 April 2024 19:56<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+26<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Asa ar fi just si normal. Nu munceste unul mai mult si altul mai putin. Cat are procurorul de sedinta atat sa aiba si avocatul din oficiu. Nu e ca unii e mai prosti si munceste pedegeaba. Daca e prea mult&#8230;atunci e platit prea mult procurorul de sedinta..<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355742\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355742\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355742\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355743\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>??????<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t 9 April 2024 20:22<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">@ Probabil c\u0103 \u00een categoria achizi\u021biilor de servicii de avocatur\u0103, pe bani publici \u0219i la  avocatur\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 func\u021bioneze licita\u021biile cu pre\u021bul cel mai mic, experien\u021b\u0103, recomand\u0103ri, avocatura oferind probabil \u0219i excep\u021bii de la legile achizi\u021biilor publice, ?<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355743\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355743\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355743\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355744\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Ioana M.<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t 9 April 2024 20:35<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+4<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Din categoria sa mai castigam si noi un ban: Trecem un onorariu de milioane lei si castigam pe o exceptie.Ca e munca multa dom&#8217;le !<br \/>\nSi cum mai inventam o cale de atac: sa contestam contestarea onorariului !<br \/>\nVa dati seama ce va face o batrana care nu are ban de avocat si mai pierde si procesul.<br \/>\nIi ia vecinul si casa, pe onorariu !<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355744\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355744\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355744\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355750\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Io<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t 9 April 2024 22:15<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Da&#8217; avocatul care isi stabileste onorariul in mii de euro si nu se prezinta la termene?Si se amana cauza din vina lui? Tot atat  plateste pagubitul ?\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355750\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355750\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355750\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355751\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Robert<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t 9 April 2024 22:34<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-7<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Citisem cateva hotarari in care CEDO spunea ca judecatorul nu poate aproba rambursarea oricarui onorariu, adica il poate cenzura inclusiv din oficiu!!! Fenechiu si Traila s-au descalificat profesional prin aberatia propusa.<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355751\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355751\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355751\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355754\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>maxtor<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t10 April 2024 02:52<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">din oficiu si impotriva persoanei nu e cosher; in rest, \u00cen acest scop, a fost arvunit ditamai eminen\u021ba Valeriu Stoica care, cu un sobor de avoca\u021bi, s-a n\u0103pustit arogant s\u0103-\u0219i sus\u021bin\u0103 clien\u021bii, de\u0219i erau cu totii de un penibil atroce. -sobor de apucatzi!<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355754\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355754\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355754\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355757\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>maxtor<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t10 April 2024 08:10<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">&#8220;reducerea onorariului sa fie atacabila odata cu fondul, nu pe cale separata, pentru a nu aglomera instantele.&#8221; -iar le-a redus veniturile si avocatii inca nu s-au prins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355757\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355757\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355757\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355759\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>??????<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t10 April 2024 08:28<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">@ Este evident \u0219i c\u0103 ,\u00een condi\u021biile integr\u0103rii \u00een Spa\u021biul Schengen, firmele str\u0103ine de avocatur\u0103 se vor impune pe pia\u021b\u0103, deoarece banii sunt din zona lor, ?<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355759\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355759\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355759\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355760\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Sebastian <\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t10 April 2024 09:40<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Sa inteleg ca daca un avocat pentru o plangere contraventionala cere sa zicem 10.000 lei si juristul politiei &#8220;nu este pe faza&#8221;  (in general nu prea vin la procese) sa ceara reducerea onorarului avocatului atunci instanta e obligata sa acorde acest onorariu nesimtit?  <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355760\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355760\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355760\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355762\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>??????<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t10 April 2024 09:44<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">@ B\u0103, cine v\u0103 \u00eenchipui voi c\u0103 are interes ca voi s\u0103 prosopera\u021bi, ?<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355762\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355762\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355762\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355772\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Ioana M.<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t10 April 2024 18:23<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">@Sebastian: va pierde statul .Din categoria cum sa mai luam un ban de la stat sau de la primarii !<br \/>\nConsilieri juridici putini, dosare multe, nu se pot prezenta la toate, in acelasi timp.Nu pot contesta onorariul.<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355772\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355772\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355772\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355773\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Florin<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t10 April 2024 18:58<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+3<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">In parte este corect, dar cum spuneam&#8230;la Romanica lucrurile func\u021bioneaz\u0103 altfel&#8230;<br \/>\nSa o luam cu sf\u00e2r\u0219itul&#8230;poate reduce la cererea p\u0103r\u021bii interesate&#8230;.pe bune? Chiar suntem t\u00e2mpi\u021bi cu to\u021bi? Orice p\u00e2rlit care vrea sa afle adev\u0103rul se duce \u00eentr-o-o instan\u021b\u0103 si se a\u0219az\u0103 s\u0103 asiste, va constata c\u0103 99% din avoca\u021bi prezint\u0103 suma onorariului la sf\u00e2r\u0219it c\u00e2nd spun laconica formul\u0103 \u201dcu cheltuieli de judecat\u0103\u201d&#8230;.<br \/>\nAcum, dac\u0103 a\u0219 fi judec\u0103tor a\u0219 spune : dac\u0103 ai depus cheltuielile dup\u0103 pledoarie, le-ai depus \u00een afara procesului(de fapt ar trebui \u00eenc\u0103 de acum s\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2mple) nu m\u0103 pot pronun\u021ba pe o chestiune care nu este supus\u0103 contradictivit\u0103\u021bii&#8230;..c\u0103 asa spui: la cererea p\u0103r\u021bi interesate&#8230;si cum cere partea daca procesul tehnic e \u00eencheiat?<br \/>\n\u00cen privin\u021ba cuantumului, dac\u0103 vine un \u0219mecher \u0219i spune ca te d\u0103 \u00een judecat\u0103(tu p\u00e2rlit) \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i pune avocat cu onorariul de 100.000 de euro, ce faci? Renun\u021bi sau mergi la ruleta judec\u0103\u021bi(c\u0103 e rulet\u0103 nu dreptate) sa vezi dac\u0103 esti bun de plat\u0103 100.000 de Euro?<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355773\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355773\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355773\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-355795\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Lila<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-432.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-432\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t11 April 2024 10:53<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\"># Avocatul din oficiu trebuie platit cat procurorul de sedinta&#8230;a\u0219a e,15000 lei lunar inpar\u021bit la 60 dosare minim pe lun\u0103 =maxim 250 lei dosar&#8230;mai mult dec\u00e2t echitabil pt salariile din Rom\u00e2nia!<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-355795\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355795\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-355795\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<section id=\"comments\">\n<div class=\"heading\">\n<h2>Adauga comentariu<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div id=\"emoticons-container\">\n<div id=\"comments-form-smilespanel\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/laugh-501.gif\" alt=\":D\" class=\"smile\" title=\"laugh-501\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/lol-515.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"lol-515\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/smile-474.gif\" alt=\":-)\" class=\"smile\" title=\"smile-474\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/wink-469.gif\" alt=\";-)\" class=\"smile\" title=\"wink-469\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/cool-480.gif\" alt=\"8)\" class=\"smile\" title=\"cool-480\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/normal-463.gif\" alt=\":-|\" class=\"smile\" title=\"normal-463\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/whistling-485.gif\" alt=\":-*\" class=\"smile\" title=\"whistling-485\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/redface-469.gif\" alt=\":oops:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"redface-469\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/sad-471.gif\" alt=\":sad:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"sad-471\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/cry-475.gif\" alt=\":cry:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"cry-475\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/surprised-469.gif\" alt=\":o\" class=\"smile\" title=\"surprised-469\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/confused-462.gif\" alt=\":-?\" class=\"smile\" title=\"confused-462\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/sick-487.gif\" alt=\":-x\" class=\"smile\" title=\"sick-487\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/shocked-487.gif\" alt=\":eek:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"shocked-487\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/sleeping-472.gif\" alt=\":zzz\" class=\"smile\" title=\"sleeping-472\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/tongue-484.gif\" alt=\":P\" class=\"smile\" title=\"tongue-484\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/rolleyes-469.gif\" alt=\":roll:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"rolleyes-469\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/unsure-464.gif\" alt=\":sigh:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"unsure-464\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text-center\">\n<p>DISCLAIMER<\/p>\n<p>Atentie! 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