{"id":786472,"date":"2025-10-24T13:21:00","date_gmt":"2025-10-24T10:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=786472"},"modified":"2025-10-24T13:21:00","modified_gmt":"2025-10-24T10:21:00","slug":"mesajul-liei-savonea-dupa-intalnirea-de-la-parlament-in-care-s-a-discutat-despre-pensiile-magistratilor-sefa-iccj-lia-savonea-enunta-cinci-principii-pentru-dialog-corpul-magistrat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=786472","title":{"rendered":"MESAJUL LIEI SAVONEA \u2013 Dupa intalnirea de la Parlament in care s-a discutat despre pensiile magistratilor, sefa ICCJ Lia Savonea enunta cinci principii pentru dialog: \u201cCorpul magistratilor nu abdica in fata presiunilor&#8230; O justitie dependenta de vointa politica de moment isi pierde forta de a garanta, pe termen lung, supravegherea statului de drept&#8230; Dorim sa gasim impreuna o iesire din criza, dar fara a compromite pilonii pe care se sprijina statul de drept\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<article id=\"article-content\">\n<h1>MESAJUL LIEI SAVONEA \u2013 Dupa intalnirea de la Parlament in care s-a discutat despre pensiile magistratilor, sefa ICCJ Lia Savonea enunta cinci principii pentru dialog: \u201cCorpul magistratilor nu abdica in fata presiunilor&#8230; O justitie dependenta de vointa politica de moment isi pierde forta de a garanta, pe termen lung, supravegherea statului de drept&#8230; Dorim sa gasim impreuna o iesire din criza, dar fara a compromite pilonii pe care se sprijina statul de drept\u201d<\/h1>\n<section id=\"article-info\">\n<p class=\"author\">Scris de: George TARATA | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luju.ro\/mesajul-liei-savonea-dupa-intalnirea-de-la-parlament-in-care-s-a-discutat-despre-pensiile-magistratilor-sefa-iccj-lia-savonea-enunta-cinci-principii-pentru-dialog-corpul-magistratilor-nu-abdica-in-fata-presiunilor-o-justitie-dependenta-de-vointa-politica?pdf\" title=\"PDF\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/pdf-71.png\" alt=\"pdf\" title=\"pdf-71\"><\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.luju.ro\/mesajul-liei-savonea-dupa-intalnirea-de-la-parlament-in-care-s-a-discutat-despre-pensiile-magistratilor-sefa-iccj-lia-savonea-enunta-cinci-principii-pentru-dialog-corpul-magistratilor-nu-abdica-in-fata-presiunilor-o-justitie-dependenta-de-vointa-politica?print=1\" class=\"external\" title=\"Imprimare\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/print-71.png\" alt=\"print\" title=\"print-71\"><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"info flex-container\">\n<div class=\"date\">24 October 2025 13:21<\/div>\n<div>Vizualizari: 9243<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<section id=\"article-body\">\n<section id=\"page\" class=\"cf\">\n<div>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/savonea_lia-1.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" title=\"savonea_lia-1\">Lumea Justitiei prezinta mesajul<b> presedintei Inaltei Curti de Casatie si Justitie, judecatoarea Lia Savonea <span>(foto)<\/span><\/b>, dupa intalnirea pe care aceasta a avut-o \u2013 i<b>mpreuna cu sefa CSM Elena Costache si Procurorul General Alex Florenta<\/b> \u2013 cu <b>presedintele Camerei Deputatilor Sorin Grindeanu, ministrul Justitiei Radu Marinescu, ministrul Muncii Florin Manole si vicepremierul Marian Neacsu<\/b>. O intalnire care a vizat elaborarea unui nou proiect de lege privind pensiile de serviciu ale magistratilor <b><span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luju.ro\/grup-de-lucru-pentru-pensiile-magistratilor-presedinta-csm-elena-costache-sefa-iccj-lia-savonea-si-procurorul-general-alex-florenta-au-discutat-cu-presedintele-camerei-deputatilor-sorin-grindeanu-ministrul-justitiei-radu-marinescu-ministrul-muncii-florin\" target=\"_blank\">(click aici pentru a citi)<\/a><\/span><\/b>. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span>Astfel, Lia Savonea subliniaza ca orice discutie privind pensiile magistratilor trebuie sa respecte cinci principii. Este vorba despre: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span>&#8211; Independenta justitiei nu este un privilegiu, ci o garantie pentru statul de drept;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span>&#8211; Predictibilitate si stabilitate pentru statutul magistratilor;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span>-Solidaritate, nu sacrificiu selectiv;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span>-Corpul magistratilor isi reafirma responsabilitatea fata de societate, dar nu abdica in fata presiunilor;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span>-Solutia trebuie sa fie constitutionala si conforma dreptului european, nu conjuncturala.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span>Totodata, Savonea precizeaza ca judecatorii si procurorii inteleg nevoia unui efort comun pentru echilibrarea bugetara si sunt dispusi sa contribuie prin solutii responsabile, dar atrage atentia ca masurile care vor fi adoptate  trebuie sa pastreze echilibrul dintre responsabilitatea fiscala si independenta justitiei, iar lipsa unor politici financiare responsabile nu poate fi mascata printr-o sanctiune colectiva aplicata magistratilor.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span><b>Prezentam mesajul presedintei ICCJ Lia Savonea:<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span>\u201cMesaj referitor la intalnirea organizata la Camera Deputatilor, pe marginea modificarii regimului pensiilor magistratilor<\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span>Salutam deschiderea pentru dialog pe care il vedem ca pe un prim pas pentru a debloca situatia actuala, in spiritul cooperarii loiale intre puteri.<\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>CINCI PRINCIPII PENTRU DIALOG<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>1. Independenta justitiei nu este un privilegiu, ci o garantie pentru statul de drept<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>2. Predictibilitate si stabilitate pentru statutul magistratilor<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>3. Solidaritate, nu sacrificiu selectiv<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>4. Corpul magistratilor isi reafirma responsabilitatea fata de societate, dar nu abdica in fata presiunilor<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>5. Solutia trebuie sa fie constitutionala si conforma dreptului european, nu conjuncturala.<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span>Magistratii inteleg nevoia unui efort comun pentru echilibrarea bugetara si sunt dispusi sa contribuie prin solutii responsabile.<b><span>Totusi, aceste masuri trebuie sa pastreze echilibrul dintre responsabilitatea fiscala si independenta justitiei.<\/span><\/b><\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>O justitie dependenta de vointa politica de moment isi pierde forta de a garanta, pe termen lung, supravegherea statului de drept.<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><span><i><span><b>De aceea, dorim sa gasim impreuna o iesire din criza, dar fara a compromite pilonii pe care se sprijina statul de drept.<\/b><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\"><i><span><span><span><b>Reforma poate si trebuie discutata, insa lipsa unor politici financiare responsabile nu poate fi mascata printr-o sanctiune colectiva aplicata magistratilor<\/b><\/span>\u201d.<\/span><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/section>\n<section id=\"comments-boxes\">\n<div class=\"heading\">\n<h2>Comentarii<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383102\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Petre<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 15:07<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-222<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">marinari ai dreptatii, ridica panze de virtute, dar dorintele lor carmesc spre recife ascunse<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383102\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383102\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383102\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383107\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>om de bine<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 15:22<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+126<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Felicitari doamna Presedinta pentru tot efortul depus in pastrarea statutului si a demnitatii magistratilor!<br \/>\nNu trebuie sa renuntati la ceea ce s-a obtinut pana acum, o data pierdut e foarte greu sau imposibil de recastigat.<br \/>\nDaca vrea reforma bugetara, ii sugerez domnului prim ministru doua idei definitorii:<br \/>\n1. reducerea numarului de parlamentari de la numarul actual la 300 asa cum s-a agreat prin referendum;<br \/>\n2. demiterea tuturor directorilor de la firmele de stat neprofitabile;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383107\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383107\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383107\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383108\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Nae<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 16:21<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-108<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Dup\u0103 ce \u0219i-au ridicat salariile \u0219i pensiile la un nivel \u201especial\u201d.. acum marea reprezentant\u0103 a justi\u021biei vrea brusc -ce s\u0103 vezi- SOLIDARITATE! <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/sick-77.gif\" alt=\":-x\" title=\"sick-77\"> M\u0103i s\u0103 fie!. Mai era o dn\u0103, revoltat\u0103 foc c\u0103 i se pare mic\u0103!: pensia de 11000!. Dnele acestea care vine cu \u00eengrijor\u0103ri privind \u201eselectivitatea\u201d or fi citit art. 16 din Constitu\u021bie&#8230; acela cu \u201ecet\u0103\u021benii sunt egali \u00een fa\u021ba legii \u0219i a autorit\u0103\u021bilor publice, f\u0103r\u0103 privilegii \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 discrimin\u0103ri\u201d <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/surprised-74.gif\" alt=\":o\" title=\"surprised-74\"><br \/>\nDe c\u00e2nd magistra\u021bii se ocup\u0103 de \u201epolitici financiare responsabile\u201d ? Nu cumva acesta este atributul puterii legislative \u0219i executive?<br \/>\nC\u00e2t despre \u201ejustitia dependent\u0103 de voin\u021ba politic\u0103 de moment\u201d  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/laugh-75.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"laugh-75\"> o contrazic pe dna, nu e vorba de moment, e vorba de cam multe \u0219i dubioase \u201emomente\u201d!.  De exl acest \u201emoment\u201d de imagine, blitz aranjat fix \u00eenainte de 7 Noiembrie, data congresului muribundului partid <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/cry-74.gif\" alt=\":cry:\" title=\"cry-74\"><\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383108\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383108\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383108\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383110\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Csaba D <\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 16:55<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-101<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Dar a\u0219a-zisa &#8220;suspendare a activit\u0103\u021bii&#8221; a.k.a. GREV\u0102, este constitu\u021bional\u0103? Adic\u0103, acest corp al magistra\u021bilor respect\u0103 Constitu\u021bia?<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383110\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383110\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383110\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383112\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Q.E.D.<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 17:15<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+106<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Un mesaj foarte bun, clar \u0219i echilibrat, care \u00eembin\u0103 fermitatea \u00een ap\u0103rarea independen\u021bei justi\u021biei cu deschiderea pentru dialog \u0219i cooperare loial\u0103 \u00eentre puteri. Felicit\u0103ri! De fiecare dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd v\u0103d lu\u0103rile de pozi\u021bie ale doamnei pre\u0219edint\u0103 Savonea am o dilem\u0103: p\u00e2n\u0103 acum \u00ceCCJ a mai avut pre\u0219edin\u021bi \u0219i nu-mi amintesc eu s\u0103 fi consolidat cu at\u00e2ta claritate respectul institu\u021bional \u0219i profesional sau abia acum chiar exist\u0103 acel leadership ca art\u0103 \u0219i \u0219tiin\u021b\u0103 \u00een a conduce instan\u021ba suprem\u0103 \u0219i se scrie istorie \u00een justi\u021bie chiar \u00een fa\u021ba noastr\u0103? <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383112\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383112\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383112\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383121\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Da! Da! Doamna Savonea<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 21:40<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Si la intalnire, sa fim si noi reprezetantii gunoierilor , lucratorilor la Apa si Canal, minieri(cat am mai ramas) , societatea civila si beneficiari ai actului de justotie  <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383121\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383121\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383121\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383125\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Nasol moment <\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 22:13<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Sun\u0103 a Ccr ul e al meu<br \/>\nNicu\u2019s oare nici nu \u0219tii cat de mic \u00eencepi s\u0103 fii<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383125\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383125\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383125\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383127\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Marin TULUS Olt<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t24 October 2025 22:48<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-119<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Lia  Savonea  trebuie sa  fie  inlaturat\u0103!!! Puterea  judecatoreasca  nu poate  sa  aib\u0103 imixtiuni in puterea executiv\u0103  si legislativ\u0103! \u0218i  recenta  situatie  de criz\u0103, greve  si proteste, atest\u0103  c\u0103  Romnania nu are  stat  de drept,pentru  c\u0103 magistratii nu repecta  tocmai  ei  principiile  si valorile democratiei  si statului de drept. Grevele  lor  sunt expresia a abuzului  colectiv  impotriva poporului roman  si  nicidecum expresia repectului fata de popor  si statul de drept,asa cum au fost  idealurile  Revolutiei  din decembrie  1989.Sustin,asa  cum am transmis  Presedintelui N D ,c\u0103 CSAT trebuie sa ia  initiativa si s\u0103 respecte principiile de securitate ale  statului roman  inscrise  in Constitutie  si s\u0103 proclame stare de urgenta  cu  ocuparea de catre Jandarmerie si Armat\u0103 a institutiilor  Justitiei , s\u0103  inl\u0103ture  toate acele grupari de interese  din aceste institutii care au paralizat statul  roman si au mentinut coruptia  cu inc\u0103lcarea drepturilor popporului! <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383127\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383127\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383127\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383135\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>santinela<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t25 October 2025 07:45<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-29<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Adica &#8220;corpul magistratilor nu abdica in fata presiunilor&#8212;&#8221; spun,tradus altfel,: -&#8221; daca nu faceti cum spunem noi nu discutam &#8220;.Cica asta-i dialog ! <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383135\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383135\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383135\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383141\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>lipseste M. Fin. ca sa va spuna  <\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t25 October 2025 12:04<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-19<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">cati bani are disponibil, de latit pentru cele 5 puncte ale dvs. Adica, puteti sa le faceti cele 5 pct in limita unui buget de xy.zht,00 lei ? Sau nu ? Ca alti bani, nu sunt iar statul nu se imprumuta . P.S. Exista, totusi, vreo &#8220;dependenta a justitiei&#8221;, de cineva, de ceva? Daca simtiti vreo &#8220;presiune&#8221;, ati formulat o plangere, un denunt, ceva ? <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383141\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383141\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383141\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383143\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Cioabi Draghe<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t25 October 2025 13:52<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+8<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Hunvo ai vezut tu grev\u0103? Nu pricepe la tine la bostan c\u0103 fost de fapt protest? Magistra\u021bii au mers la servici, am v\u0103zut arest\u0103ri, motiv\u0103ri, s-a muncit, dar tu nu ai de unde s\u0103 \u0219tii treburi de astea. No, dache nu place la tine  mezo dior\u0219on la Ungheria \u0219i lase la noi in pace.<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383143\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383143\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383143\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383152\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Cioabi,dar nu draghe la tine,ori cu tine<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t25 October 2025 20:16<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-5<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Cioabi are doar draghe de tine,&#8230;a\u0219e efiminat ce este tu. Grofi Pr\u0103bu\u0219eanu,adic\u0103 Grindeanu voghiu la iutub c\u0103 magistre\u021bii. fekul la iei greva,nem protest. Ertem? <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383152\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383152\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383152\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383154\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Ion<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t25 October 2025 21:18<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"red\">-2<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Dac\u0103 continua achit\u0103rile din marile dosare de corup\u021bie \u0219i unde se pune PV confiscarii , adio echilibru l bugetar , d na Pres ! Se echilibreaz\u0103 deficitul buzunar!<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383154\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383154\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383154\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383162\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Cioabi Draghe<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t26 October 2025 13:17<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+4<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Api, dache tu te iei dup\u0103 Grindeanu e\u015fti cam hiba\u0219 la c\u0103p\u0103\u021b\u00e2n\u0103, no. Pune bostanu la contribu\u021bie \u015fi pricepe ce zic, no. \u015etiu c\u0103 voi, cu filetu&#8217; pe st\u00e2nga pricepe\u021bi mai greu, no. Dac\u0103 nu, du-te-n corhaz de te m\u00e2n\u00e2nce! Ertem?<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383162\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383162\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383162\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383185\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>jan<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t27 October 2025 13:20<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"green\">+1<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">De ce nu se sesizeaza savonea de dosarul azilelor? mergem spre prescriere? de dosarul politistilor tortionari? mergem spre prescriere? de dosarul crevedia, si cate si mai cate!!! o doare doar de independenta magistratilor care este dependenta de leafa babana, cum naiba vine asta???<\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383185\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383185\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383185\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment\" id=\"comentariu-383205\">\n<div class=\"commentBody\">\n<div class=\"commentDate\">\n<p class=\"comment-details cf\"><span class=\"comment-id\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t#<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<strong>Pem<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/calendar-61.png\" alt=\"date\" title=\"calendar-61\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t28 October 2025 09:10<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><span class=\"comment-quality cf\"><span class=\"gray\">0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"commentContent\">Dependenta de vointa politic\u0103.. hm, cum vine asta? Cand  v8 s-au acordat privilegiile, clasa politica a fost corecta, convenabila.. pt ca era un drept al vostru divin , provenit din &#8230; Cum zicea colega vostra, unici? <\/div>\n<ul class=\"cf cactions\">\n<li><a class=\"comment-383205\" href rel=\"raspunde\" title=\"Raspunde\">Raspunde<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383205\" rel=\"raspunde-citeaza\" title=\"Raspunde cu citat\">Raspunde cu citat<\/a><\/li>\n<li>|<\/li>\n<li><a href class=\"comment-383205\" title=\"Citat\" rel=\"citeaza\">Citat<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<section id=\"comments\">\n<div class=\"heading\">\n<h2>Adauga comentariu<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div id=\"emoticons-container\">\n<div id=\"comments-form-smilespanel\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/laugh-76.gif\" alt=\":D\" class=\"smile\" title=\"laugh-76\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/lol-82.gif\" alt=\":lol:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"lol-82\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/smile-74.gif\" alt=\":-)\" class=\"smile\" title=\"smile-74\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/wink-72.gif\" alt=\";-)\" class=\"smile\" title=\"wink-72\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/cool-76.gif\" alt=\"8)\" class=\"smile\" title=\"cool-76\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/normal-71.gif\" alt=\":-|\" class=\"smile\" title=\"normal-71\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/whistling-74.gif\" alt=\":-*\" class=\"smile\" title=\"whistling-74\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/redface-72.gif\" alt=\":oops:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"redface-72\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/sad-71.gif\" alt=\":sad:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"sad-71\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/cry-75.gif\" alt=\":cry:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"cry-75\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/surprised-75.gif\" alt=\":o\" class=\"smile\" title=\"surprised-75\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/confused-71.gif\" alt=\":-?\" class=\"smile\" title=\"confused-71\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/sick-78.gif\" alt=\":-x\" class=\"smile\" title=\"sick-78\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/shocked-76.gif\" alt=\":eek:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"shocked-76\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/sleeping-74.gif\" alt=\":zzz\" class=\"smile\" title=\"sleeping-74\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/tongue-73.gif\" alt=\":P\" class=\"smile\" title=\"tongue-73\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/rolleyes-72.gif\" alt=\":roll:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"rolleyes-72\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/unsure-71.gif\" alt=\":sigh:\" class=\"smile\" title=\"unsure-71\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"text-center\">\n<p>DISCLAIMER<\/p>\n<p>Atentie! 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