{"id":780161,"date":"2025-12-01T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-12-01T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=780161"},"modified":"2025-12-01T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2025-12-01T09:00:00","slug":"were-like-brother-and-sister-yung-lean-and-charli-xcx-in-conversation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=780161","title":{"rendered":"\u2018We\u2019re like brother and sister\u2019: Yung Lean and Charli xcx in conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"article-body wrapper\">\n<div class=\"dazed-gallery has-19-images \">\n<div class=\"inner\">\n<header>\n<div class=\"info\"><span class=\"heading\">Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter <span class=\"nowrap\">Issue 2025<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"gallery\">\n<div class=\"gallery-thumbs\">\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36396\/0\/yung-lean-the-winter-issue-2025\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1336\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431811.jpg\" width=\"2004\" title=\"1431811\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36396\/1\/yung-lean-the-winter-issue-2025\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1365\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431807.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431807\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36396\/2\/yung-lean-the-winter-issue-2025\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1365\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431802.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431802\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36396\/3\/yung-lean-the-winter-issue-2025\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1365\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431810.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431810\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36396\/4\/yung-lean-the-winter-issue-2025\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1364\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431798.jpg\" width=\"2046\" title=\"1431798\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36396\/5\/yung-lean-the-winter-issue-2025\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"950\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431799.jpg\" width=\"1425\" title=\"1431799\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-footer\">Gallery \/ 19 images<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><em>This story is taken from the winter 2025 issue of Dazed, which is on sale internationally from December 5. Pre-order a copy of the magazine <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boutiquemags.com\/dpa\/add\/tocart\/id\/14592\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/yung-lean\">Yung Lean<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/charli-xcx\">Charli xcx<\/a> are kindred spirits. That might seem like an unlikely thing to say about a Swedish rap sensation who sings of Gatorade and hell, and a British pop star whose club-wrapped confessions have echoed everywhere from warehouse toilet stalls to the highest echelons of American power \u2013 but they have a lot in common.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Both started out as hungry outsiders: Charli DJing illegal raves in London in the mid-2000s, Yung Lean (real name Jonatan Leandoer H\u00e5stad) pioneering a new strain of melancholic rap on SoundCloud in the early 2010s. In communion with leftfield pop culture past and present, they are masters of juxtaposition, dropping bleeding-heart lyricism next to winking self-mythology, or kicking a simple electronic drum beat behind a weighty meditation on relationships. They have both repeatedly defied 21st-century moulds of simplicity and convenience in favour of enigma and roads less travelled, and, as a result, retooled the lingua franca of youth culture. If you invoke the terms \u201csad boy\u201d or \u201cbrat\u201d, who is it you have in mind?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Since the pair first met in their teens, drinking apple juice at a cafe in Stockholm, their friendship has been a constant through years of ravenous ambition, personal maturation and restless creative impulses. Their shared love of film has dovetailed in 2025 as they both made the jump from stage to screen, coming together in the cast of Romain Gavras\u2019s ego-satire <em>Sacrifice<\/em>. Charli makes an appearance as \u201cMother Nature\u201d while Yung Lean makes his feature-film debut, following the release of his fifth studio album <em>Jonatan <\/em>\u2013 a textured navigation of authenticity and celebrity that brings his bamboozling array of interests under one roof. (Of his painting, which you can see him practising in this story, he says, \u201cI usually paint the same things, like a tree, a naked couple, symbols, a moon. It\u2019s like caveman shit.\u201d)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"bcc55393-2855-460a-bea6-b3a200ee2dd5\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431811.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.53\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1336\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431811-1.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431811-1\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Wool coat Givenchy by Sarah Burton, cotton <span class=\"nowrap\">shirt ERL<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p>When Dazed speaks with the pair, they\u2019re both in LA. Charli is at home the morning after joining Lorde at the Kia Forum for a stadium-rattling remix of <span>\u201c<\/span>Girl, so confusing<span>\u201d<\/span>; Yung Lean is tearing into a bunless burger at retro-styled beach house The Bungalow, after concluding the first leg of his Forever Yung tour and a 15-hour night\u2019s sleep.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>Are you enjoying The Bungalow? What did you order?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> The Bungalow is too nice! I ordered a burger with no bread and a burrata.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>You\u2019re in your Chris Evans movie star era.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> Once you get a taste of the skinny life, it\u2019s hard to come back. I was chubby for so long. [<\/span><em><span>laughs<\/span><\/em><span>]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>So, you are one of the wisest people I know, but you also have a real inner child that is very charming and sweet. Do you think you\u2019ll live for a really long time? And if you do think that, what do you think 90-year-old Yung Lean will be like?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> I think if you have a big inner child then you do have a lot of wisdom. If I were just wise, I\u2019d probably suck as a person, but the balance makes sense. I hope I get really old. 90-year-old Lean, I assume, will be silly. He\u2019d have a lot of grandkids, like 30 of them, running around.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>30?! That\u2019s a cult.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> Yeah. I\u2019ll have to put in work.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I\u2019m excited that you\u2019re back in LA. The last time that we were here together you took me to a magic show. The magician asked all of us to pick two halves of a ripped playing card and make a wish, and if the two halves matched then it would come true. My cards didn\u2019t match, so my wish was not supposed to come true. But you asked me what I wished for, and I very sheepishly said, \u2018I wish to be more successful and famous\u2019 and you laughed at me and said, <\/span><span>\u2018You can\u2019t wish for something like that!\u2019 Almost as if I\u2019d wasted a wish.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>This was two years ago, before Brat. So actually, my wish sort of did come true. It\u2019s also funny that I was with you, because I feel a spiritual kinship with you in some ways. Good things happen when I\u2019m around you. I wondered if you had ever felt that you have some kind of magical power?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"0128d7ed-d5fb-45af-9629-b3a200ee2736\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431807.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.43\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1429\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431807-1.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431807-1\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes Prada<\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"16d76604-34db-4cc7-8d55-b3a200ee1e27\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431802.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.43\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1429\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431802-1.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431802-1\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes Prada<\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong> I think you\u2019re the one with the magical power and you just don\u2019t know it. Good things happen when I\u2019m around you, too. I guess everyone can kind of manifest stuff, and that magician was pretty powerful. [<em>laughs<\/em>] But I do believe in magic. In Sweden, before Christianity came, we were pagans. There were a lot of pagan traditions. You can feel it in America too. The Native Americans were really close to nature, and they would do sermons and speak to the spirits. I think that still exists. I think making music is like making magic.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I love how you sound when you\u2019re singing. Do you feel like you have to get into a different mindset when you\u2019re singing versus when you\u2019re rapping? And when you look back at your catalogue, can you still always find a piece of yourself in some of your older work?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> There\u2019s this song I did when I was 12 called \u2018S\u00f6der S\u00f6der\u2019, and in that song you can hear everything that I\u2019ve become. It\u2019s all there. The first artforms I did were painting, graffiti and rapping. I was always freestyling with people. I would run up to local rappers and freestyle for them. Or I\u2019d be at an afterparty, high and drunk, and freestyle. So that came very naturally for me, and it still is natural.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Singing was the unnatural thing, and singing came out at a time when everything went kind of sideways in my life \u2013 my manager died, I had psychosis, yada yada. Then I started singing because I felt so vulnerable. I couldn\u2019t get into the [rap] mind state. I didn\u2019t feel that swaggy. I felt more like an outcast, like some Daniel Johnston mental patient who had to sing. It didn\u2019t come as naturally as rapping. They\u2019re two different things, but I love mixing them. It\u2019s more about where I am at the moment, and I have to stay true to where I am at the moment or else I shouldn\u2019t make music.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span>Playing a show is like being a gladiator. It\u2019s fuck or fight: you can either fuck the show or fight it and run away<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>After Brat, I felt really uninspired by music. I don\u2019t really listen to that much music anyway. I listen to you, Lou Reed, Sophie, AG Cook, Benjamin [Bladee], George [Daniel, Charli\u2019s husband and drummer with The 1975], and that\u2019s kind of it. I\u2019m not listening to a lot of stuff and I\u2019m not particularly hungry to learn about new music. It\u2019s never inspired me, really.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>I\u2019ve always been more inspired by film. So I think at that point, when I wasn\u2019t feeling particularly inspired by music, I wanted to delve more into a different creative space. You have always done that. I\u2019m blown away by the amount of work that you\u2019re constantly making, whether it\u2019s sculptures, paintings, clothes, music or, now, film.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> I think the elephant in the room is that we\u2019re kind of like siblings. I understand you. How interested you\u2019ve been in film, in world-building and [putting] little Easter eggs in music videos. I\u2019m interested in that stuff too. I think any artist that\u2019s had a long career \u2013 from Kate Bush to Madonna to OutKast \u2013 has these little things that become a whole world. You and I have always been film nerds. Pop culture is my one true love.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I feel like we both have that thing where creating things makes us feel alive and normal. When you say we\u2019re like brother and sister, which we are, I think it\u2019s because we both have that.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"3f5b4974-4588-49ab-a118-b3a200ee2c46\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431810.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.43\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1429\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431810-1.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431810-1\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Leather and shearling coat ERL, cotton shirt Brooks Brothers, denim jeans Acne Studios, silver bracelet Santangelo, shoes Yung <span class=\"nowrap\">Lean\u2019s own<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"57f890fa-3261-4570-b4c6-b3a200ee18ad\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431798.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.43\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1429\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431798-1.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431798-1\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Leather and shearling coat ERL, cotton shirt Brooks Brothers, denim jeans Acne Studios, silver bracelet Santangelo, shoes Yung <span class=\"nowrap\">Lean\u2019s own<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"f8c68d10-e1a7-4bab-90c3-b3a200ee19ed\" data-src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431799-1.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.7\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431799-1.jpg\" width=\"1427\" title=\"1431799-1\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes and leather loafers Acne Studios, acetate and silver sunglasses Chrome Hearts,<br \/>\ncashmere scarf Paul Smith, silver and topaz <span class=\"nowrap\">ring Maple<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> You have a thing that\u2019s different from me, though. You\u2019re like a machine. I might be at home doing ten paintings and ceramics and getting into myself, but you can find the best scriptwriter, the best DOP [director of photography], and put together a whole TV show in, like, two weeks. There\u2019s something social about your skill that\u2019s just like, boss lady. You have the social genius of picking people who are really good at something and [bringing them together], but it\u2019s still your vision.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I wanted to ask you specifically about Romain Gavras\u2019s film <\/span><em><span>Sacrifice<\/span><\/em><span>, which I\u2019m in a tiny bit but you\u2019re really in. I felt genuinely emotional to see you taking on this new lane to such a high level so effortlessly. How did you feel seeing yourself on the screen like that? Were you scared?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> I was emotional too. I was emotional that we were sitting next to each other [at the premiere], and I had flashbacks of you buying beer for me when I was 17 in Stockholm and us being like lost little teenagers in the underground pop or hip hop world, and coming from that world into this one. We\u2019ve both known Romain for ten years, so it feels like we\u2019re doing something with our friend, who happens to be a very good director. But I was nervous, and I didn\u2019t feel the same satisfaction that I feel from playing a show. Playing a show is like being a gladiator. It\u2019s fuck or fight: you can either fuck the show or you fight it and run away. Being on stage, there are all these emotions, and you get it all out. [With a premiere], we were in a cinema. We were sitting in chairs. It\u2019s not the same experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"be64739b-e9f3-46a7-94dc-b3a200ee178c\" data-src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431797.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431797.jpg\" width=\"1569\" title=\"1431797\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes and leather loafers Acne Studios, acetate and silver sunglasses Chrome Hearts,<br \/>\ncashmere scarf Paul Smith, silver and topaz <span class=\"nowrap\">ring Maple<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"73c86578-e3f1-4e05-bfcb-b3a200ee131f\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431794.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.43\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1429\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431794.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431794\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes ERL, cashmere scarf Paul Smith (all worn here and on seventh <span class=\"nowrap\">spread, left).<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"1f8e556f-e3f0-4795-bad7-b3a200efbc04\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431813.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.43\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1429\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431813.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431813\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes Tom Ford, leather <span class=\"nowrap\">loafers ERL<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong>But did you feel that when you were on set? When you were shooting, did you ever feel that sense of cathartic release when you would finish a scene?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> I did. That was very different from seeing the film. Being on set, in some of the scenes that I did with Ambika [Mod], where I could get pushed to be really vulnerable or angry, that felt like making music. That felt like expressing myself. On the day of the premiere [in Toronto], I was more like, \u2018All right, let\u2019s just show up and look swaggy.\u2019 Like, this is insane. There\u2019s John Malkovich, there\u2019s Anya [Taylor-Joy], there\u2019s Vincent Cassel, there\u2019s you and me. This is pop culture at a wild moment. So I didn\u2019t take in that much while watching the film, I was just feeling the moment. I really want a role where I can access more darkness, maybe. Or more insanity, or more love. Just more. I felt like I was touching something, but I couldn\u2019t go all the way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>You mentioned going into the darkness a bit more \u2013 I feel like I can get swallowed up by my shadow self sometimes, but I\u2019m working hard on not doing that. I just started doing this dream work stuff with an acting coach, and it\u2019s been really interesting accessing elements of things that I push into my subconscious, and dreams that I try to run from or dismiss as pure fiction.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> I think, with the shadow self, you have to explore it and then incorporate it into yourself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>What is your dream project in film?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> Have you seen that film with Jack Nicholson, <\/span><em><span>The Witches of Eastwick<\/span><\/em><span>? We should do a reshoot of that. You can play Cher and I\u2019ll play Jack Nicholson. [<\/span><em><span>laughs<\/span><\/em><span>] But to be serious about your question, I\u2019d like to do something like the films that I\u2019ve shown you or that we\u2019ve talked about, like <\/span><em><span>Lilya 4-ever<\/span><\/em><span>, that depressing Swedish film, or Ingmar Bergman\u2019s horror films. I\u2019m also a sucker for 70s gangster films that are kind of poetic. I like Jonathan Glazer. I like surreal stuff, like Leos Carax. When I\u2019m older, I would like to direct, but until then I\u2019d like to dip my feet into acting a little more and have fun with friends. I would like to do something in my mother tongue as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"058017c2-f485-468d-afe9-b3a200ee1fc3\" data-src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431803.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.68\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431803.jpg\" width=\"1395\" title=\"1431803\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes ERL, cashmere scarf Paul Smith (all worn here and on seventh <span class=\"nowrap\">spread, left).<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"6da13c95-1185-4d95-91a2-b3a200ee2445\" data-src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431805.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.68\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431805.jpg\" width=\"1393\" title=\"1431805\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes Tom Ford, leather <span class=\"nowrap\">loafers ERL<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong>I actually have a question that I\u2019ve never asked you before. When we first met, you were 15 or 16, and I was maybe 17 or 18. We met at Drop Coffee in Stockholm, which is still one of my favourite coffee shops there, and we drank apple juice together. I\u2019ve always wondered, what were your first impressions of me?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> I definitely thought you were more pretty in real life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>Don\u2019t get weird about your sister now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> No, no. You\u2019re a married woman and I have love for George, I just have to put that out there. But I also felt that you were real. At that point I hadn\u2019t really met anyone who made music outside of my friends, and there was no bullshit, you know? You were curious, you had a real goal, you were hungry. Of course you like the idea of glamour and fame \u2013 so do I, we all do \u2013 but you were on a quest. You had a vision. I thought you were cool.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I thought you were cool too. I was very intimidated to meet you. I loved your work so much&#8230; But I remember thinking you were unbelievably precocious. You had so much knowledge about so much stuff, and you still do. Your reference points at the age of 16 were fucking crazy. I remember feeling so inspired by you, which I still feel now. You have an encyclopaedic knowledge of art. I also remember thinking you had really thick hair.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> My hair was really thick at the time&#8230; When I was a kid and me and my sister would take baths, my mum would put eggs in our hair. It must have been some old Russian home recipe for thicker hair, I guess.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"2c7e4731-0518-437c-8c17-b3a200ee161f\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431796.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.39\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1470\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431796.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431796\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Denim jeans <span class=\"nowrap\">Acne Studios.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"f00767a5-ce62-4612-8703-b3a200ee11da\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431793.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.39\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1470\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431793.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431793\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Denim jeans <span class=\"nowrap\">Acne Studios.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>You let me do your hair in Toronto and I made it look insane and then you shaved it all off.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> You made me look like an Essex grandma. But to go back to your question, I think I did recognise this thing in you. It sounds a bit strange, but before [we met] I wasn\u2019t just living in Stockholm. I went to kindergarten in Belarus and one of my first memories in life is someone putting a dummy cone hat on me because I\u2019d hit this teacher. I was living there with my mum and dad, and we were different from everyone. After that, we lived in Vietnam. We became kind of like a little entity that moved around in the world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I definitely relate to what you\u2019re saying about outsiderness. I never felt accepted where I went, whether that was in school for being half-Indian and not blonde, or not fully relating to my Indian self because I was half-white. There was this weird, displaced feeling, where I couldn\u2019t quite fit into either place. Then with music, being outside of the mainstream and wanting to be in that world, but also really wanting to reject it. It created this concoction that allowed me to [make <\/span><em><span>Brat<\/span><\/em><span>]. I feel like I used to be very afraid. Not since 2016, really, but prior to that I was very afraid. I feel like you\u2019ve always been pretty fearless. Or is that na\u00efve of me to say?<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I really want a role where I can access more darkness, maybe. More more insanity, or more love. Just more<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> No. I have been fearless, but my whole life has been very random. Ever since I was a kid in the dummy hat in Belarus, my personality was always kind of big, and that\u2019s just the way it was. When I was in grade five, there would be all these older kids like, \u2018Yo, <\/span><span>we want to punch Jonatan, we want to fuck him up.\u2019 And I was like, \u2018I\u2019m like ten years younger than you guys. Why? But go on then, do it.\u2019 And they would never do it. I\u2019ve always created some sort of emotion with people. Whether they thought I was cocky or they liked me or they hated me, there was always an emotion. I think if you have that, you say \u2018fuck it\u2019. People are either going to hate me or they\u2019re going to love me. I can\u2019t control it, so fuck them. Then you become fearless.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I feel like you don\u2019t get hate that much now though, and I don\u2019t even mean online, I mean in life. Whenever I\u2019m with you \u2013 and it\u2019s actually really annoying, to be honest \u2013 everybody\u2019s like, \u2018Oh, Jonatan is so cool! He\u2019s the best!\u2019 You were a hit at my wedding. When the wedding was over everybody was like, \u2018Jonatan! Jonatan! La la la!\u2019 You have a very effervescent thing that you must [know about]. Of course, you can\u2019t get big-headed about it, because otherwise the charm might go.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"89eccb37-d4a3-4c61-bbaa-b3a200ee25e9\" data-src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431806.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.78\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431806.jpg\" width=\"1591\" title=\"1431806\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes Saint Laurent by Anthony Vaccarello (worn here and on<br \/>\nlast <span class=\"nowrap\">spread, right).<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"8574b776-3584-4dc6-bb1b-b3a200ee1b3d\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431800.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.39\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1470\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431800.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431800\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Cotton shirt ERL<\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"40f0907d-8f92-4615-88df-b3a200ee2208\" data-src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431804.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431804.jpg\" width=\"1571\" title=\"1431804\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Shirt and scarf <span class=\"nowrap\">as before<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> That\u2019s the thing about magic. If you talk about it, then it\u2019s gone. I guess I try to treat people with respect. I think respect goes a long way. If you\u2019re insecure, then you start becoming mean and pushing people down. I\u2019ve been around too many people who are mean and I\u2019ve seen too much evil. People like me more than my music. I thought my music and my art was the shit and I was just whatever, but actually it\u2019s the other way around. So you\u2019re hitting worldwide with the music. I\u2019m hitting at a wedding.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I think it\u2019s cool you called this record <\/span><em><span>Jonatan<\/span><\/em><span>, because people don\u2019t necessarily know your personality through the work that you create. Some of it is very avant-garde. You\u2019re not very online. I think you will inherently always have a mystique to you, because it is just who you are.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>But I think it\u2019s nice to see you on <em>Subway Takes<\/em>, for example, talking about&#8230; What were you talking about? Weren\u2019t you saying everyone\u2019s gonna live in a cave or something?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> Yeah. It was right after the LA fires. I\u2019d just got sober, and there was all this stuff with Diddy, and I realised everyone was just doing ketamine at every party&#8230; I was just trying to do a counter thing of that, because that\u2019s how I felt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>I think it\u2019s nice to see your personality because you are a really warm person. You\u2019re kind of a geek, because you\u2019re so passionate about what you do, but you\u2019re also a really nice guy \u2013 not just to other people in this world but also, like, my dad.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> Are you still seeing a psychic?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Charli xcx: <\/strong><span>Yeah! I need to go back soon, actually. We should go see her now that we\u2019re here together.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yung Lean:<\/strong><span> I\u2019m down! I took you to the magic show last time, now you take me to the psychic. That seems fair.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"0d301476-08af-4c59-826a-b3a200ee2a24\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431809.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.39\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1469\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431809.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431809\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes and leather loafers Acne Studios, cashmere scarf Paul Smith, acetate and silver sunglasses <span class=\"nowrap\">Chrome Hearts<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"0f736549-8e19-45a7-a4c8-b3a200ee2865\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/1\/1431808.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.39\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"1470\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431808.jpg\" width=\"2048\" title=\"1431808\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">All clothes and leather loafers Acne Studios, cashmere scarf Paul Smith, acetate and silver sunglasses <span class=\"nowrap\">Chrome Hearts<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"83b40ee4-af70-49ac-87f2-b3a200ee1c93\" data-src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431801.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025\" class=\"img\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1431801.jpg\" width=\"1571\" title=\"1431801\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">This page: all clothes <span class=\"nowrap\">as before<\/span><\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photography Cristina Stolhe, styling <span class=\"nowrap\">Taylor McNeill<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html-embed\">\n<p><em>Hair <span class=\"s1\">Nero<\/span> at <span class=\"s1\">MA+ Talent<\/span> using Oribe Hair Care<span class=\"s2\">, make-up <\/span>Allie Smith<span class=\"s2\"> at <\/span>MA+ Talent <span class=\"s2\">using <\/span>Make Up For Ever<span class=\"s2\">, <\/span><span class=\"s1\">Naoko Kitano<\/span>, set design Nat Hoffman<span class=\"s2\"> at <\/span>Silvertooth<span class=\"s2\">, <\/span>lighting assistants <span class=\"s1\">Steven <\/span>Pane Medina<span class=\"s2\">, <\/span>Sarame <span class=\"s1\">Sahgal<\/span>, styling assistants Claire Wiseman<span class=\"s2\">, <\/span>Jackson <span class=\"s1\">Prus<\/span>, set design assistant Lorin Daughton<span class=\"s2\">, production <\/span>Olivia Gouveia<span class=\"s2\"> at <\/span>Family <span class=\"s1\">Projects<\/span>, production manager <span class=\"s1\">Kim Romero<\/span>, production <span class=\"s2\">coordinator <\/span>Marlo Rimalovski<span class=\"s2\">, <\/span>production assistants <span class=\"s1\">Turner <\/span>Thompson<span class=\"s2\">, <\/span>Myles Gouveia<span class=\"s2\">, <\/span>casting <span class=\"s1\">gk-ld<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span class=\"s1\">This story is taken from the winter 2025 issue of Dazed, which is on sale internationally from December 5. Pre-order a copy of the magazine <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boutiquemags.com\/dpa\/add\/tocart\/id\/14592\">here<\/a>.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-series header article-series tags\"><span class=\"heading\">More on these topics:<\/span><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\">Music<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/the-winter-2025-issue\">The Winter 2025 Issue<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/tag\/yung-lean\">Yung Lean<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/tag\/charli-xcx\">Charli XCX<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Source URL: https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/article\/69161\/1\/yung-lean-and-charli-xcx-in-conversation-dazed-winter-2025-issue<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yung Lean \u2013 The Winter Issue 2025 Gallery \/ 19 images This story is taken from the winter 2025 issue of Dazed, which is on sale internationally from December 5. Pre-order a copy of the magazine here. Yung Lean and Charli xcx are kindred spirits. That might seem like an unlikely thing to say about [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":780162,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[76],"class_list":["post-780161","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics","tag-dazeddigital-com"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/780161","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=780161"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/780161\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/780162"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=780161"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=780161"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=780161"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}