{"id":2244626,"date":"2026-11-08T10:33:00","date_gmt":"2026-11-08T07:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=2244626"},"modified":"2026-11-08T10:33:00","modified_gmt":"2026-11-08T07:33:00","slug":"dan-dungaciu-aur-de-la-democratia-originala-a-lui-ion-iliescu-la-alegerile-originale-ale-lui-nicusor-dan-asta-nu-este-democratie-domnule-dan-asta-este-democratie-controlata-democratie-d","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=2244626","title":{"rendered":"Dan Dungaciu, AUR: \u201dDe la democra\u021bia original\u0103 a lui Ion Iliescu la alegerile originale ale lui Nicu\u0219or Dan. Asta nu este democra\u021bie, domnule Dan. Asta este democra\u021bie controlat\u0103, democra\u021bie dirijat\u0103\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[analyse_image type=&#8221;featured&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.activenews.ro\/images\/articole\/209222.jpeg&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"articleBody\" data-key=\"articleBody\">&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;Prim-vicepre\u0219edintele AUR Dan Dungaciu critic\u0103 declara\u021biile pre\u0219edintelui Nicu\u0219or Dan privind legitimitatea alegerilor, avertiz\u00e2nd c\u0103 ideea potrivit c\u0103reia scrutinul nu se rezum\u0103 la num\u0103rarea voturilor poate deschide calea c\u0103tre interven\u021bia statului \u00een modul \u00een care cet\u0103\u021benii g\u00e2ndesc \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i exprim\u0103 op\u021biunile politice.&lt;\/span&gt; Acesta atrage aten\u021bia c\u0103 democra\u021bia presupune libertatea de g\u00e2ndire, pluralismul opiniilor \u0219i dreptul cet\u0103\u021benilor de a decide prin vot, f\u0103r\u0103 ca puterea s\u0103 stabileasc\u0103 ce opinii sunt corecte sau acceptabile.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;\u201eDomnul Nicu\u0219or Dan ne spune recent c\u0103 alegerile nu sunt doar despre num\u0103rarea voturilor. Declara\u021bie riscant\u0103 \u0219i extrem de riscant\u0103, cel pu\u021bin prin ceea ce nu spune ea \u0219i ceea ce sugereaz\u0103.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;Din ce \u0219tiam noi p\u00e2n\u0103 acum? Din lecturi, experien\u021b\u0103 politic\u0103, istorie. Democra\u021bia este sistemul care nu are un criteriu \u00een afara lui \u00eensu\u0219i. Altfel spus, nu exist\u0103 cineva din afara unei democra\u021bii care s\u0103 le spun\u0103 acelor oameni cum s\u0103-\u0219i tr\u0103iasc\u0103 vie\u021bile, ce cale de urmat este mai bun\u0103 pentru vie\u021bile lor, familiile lor, destinele lor. \u0218i pentru c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 vreun criteriu din afara democra\u021biei, oamenii sunt invita\u021bi s\u0103 spun\u0103 cum g\u00e2ndesc \u0219i ce g\u00e2ndesc. Unii cred ceva, al\u021bii cred altceva, alte grupuri au p\u0103reri diferite. \u0218i tocmai pentru c\u0103 nu avem cum s\u0103 decidem \u00een aceast\u0103 varietate de op\u021biuni, s-a inventat democra\u021bia. Mergem la vot \u0219i op\u021biunea sau op\u021biunile majoritare vor conduce respectiva societate.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;A\u0219a func\u021bioneaz\u0103 democra\u021biile. Democra\u021biile au fost inventate pentru c\u0103 oamenii sunt diferi\u021bi, oamenii v\u0103d lumea diferit, oamenii au valori diferite. \u00cenc\u0103 o dat\u0103, nu exist\u0103 cineva din afara democra\u021biei care are dreptul politic legitim s\u0103 le spun\u0103 oamenilor cum trebuie s\u0103 g\u00e2ndeasc\u0103.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;A\u0219a func\u021bioneaz\u0103, domnule Dan, democra\u021biile.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Prin urmare, atunci c\u00e2nd le spune\u021bi c\u0103 alegerile nu sunt doar despre vot, sugera\u021bi c\u0103 statul, care trebuie s\u0103 \u00eendeplineasc\u0103 o func\u021bie tehnic\u0103, adic\u0103 s\u0103 se asigure c\u0103 alegerile sunt corecte, c\u0103 spa\u021biul public este respectat, c\u0103 actorii politici au dreptul s\u0103 intre \u00een spa\u021biul public s\u0103-\u0219i exprime opiniile, c\u0103 legile nu se \u00eencalc\u0103, c\u0103 alegerile sunt libere \u0219i corecte, c\u0103 sistemul func\u021bioneaz\u0103, c\u0103 nu se \u00eencalc\u0103 legisla\u021bia electoral\u0103 \u0219i a\u0219a mai departe, pentru prima dat\u0103 ne spune\u021bi c\u0103 statul trebuie s\u0103 intre \u00een con\u021binutul de g\u00e2ndire al oamenilor.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Nu este vorba doar despre ce fac oamenii la alegeri, este vorba despre cum g\u00e2ndesc oamenii. \u0218i aici lucrurile se complic\u0103, domnule Dan. Pentru c\u0103 aici intr\u0103m, sau risc\u0103m s\u0103 intr\u0103m, \u00een cu totul alte tipuri de sisteme care \u00eenseamn\u0103, de fapt, democra\u021bia original\u0103 a lui Ion Iliescu, alegerile originale pe care le propune\u021bi \u0219i democra\u021bia dirijat\u0103 sau democra\u021bia suveran\u0103 pe care o propune Kremlinul\u201d, a precizat Dan Dungaciu.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;De asemenea, Dan Dungaciu acuz\u0103 marginalizarea partidului \u00een spa\u021biul public, \u00een ciuda sus\u021binerii electorale de care se bucur\u0103, \u0219i atrage aten\u021bia c\u0103 excluderea AUR din dezbaterea public\u0103 afecteaz\u0103 direct func\u021bionarea democra\u021biei. Acesta sus\u021bine c\u0103 statul nu trebuie s\u0103 decid\u0103 ce opinii sunt corecte \u0219i cine are dreptul s\u0103 participe la via\u021ba politic\u0103, ci trebuie s\u0103 garanteze libertatea de exprimare, pluralismul \u0219i dreptul cet\u0103\u021benilor de a-\u0219i alege reprezentan\u021bii.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;\u201eP\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103, aici ajungem. \u00cen momentul \u00een care problema este cum g\u00e2ndesc oamenii, premisa este c\u0103 unii g\u00e2ndesc gre\u0219it, unii g\u00e2ndesc prost. Gre\u0219it \u00een raport cu ce, domnule Dan? Defect \u00een raport cu ce criterii? Cine le impune? Cum le impune? Oamenii au p\u0103rerile lor. At\u00e2t timp c\u00e2t acele p\u0103reri nu \u00eencalc\u0103 legisla\u021bia, acele p\u0103reri sunt perfect legitime. C\u0103 place unora sau nu le place.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Ce spune\u021bi dumneavoastr\u0103 \u00een acest moment este c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 vedem cine g\u00e2nde\u0219te defect. Adic\u0103 exact democra\u021bia dirijat\u0103 ruseasc\u0103.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Democra\u021bia ruseasc\u0103 declar\u0103 c\u0103 iube\u0219te poporul, dar nu \u00eei iube\u0219te pe membrii poporului \u0219i nu are \u00eencredere \u00een ei. \u0218i pentru c\u0103 membrii poporului nu sunt \u00een stare s\u0103 decid\u0103 pentru ei \u0219i c\u0103 pot s\u0103 gre\u0219easc\u0103, s-a decis ca statul s\u0103 g\u00e2ndeasc\u0103 \u00een locul lor, statul s\u0103 selecteze cine are dreptul sau nu s\u0103 participe la aceste alegeri, statul s\u0103 selecteze cine are dreptul s\u0103 \u00eei reprezinte \u0219i cum.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Prin urmare, \u00een democra\u021bia ruseasc\u0103, poporul este practic suspendat. \u0218i toat\u0103 democra\u021bia se transform\u0103 \u00eentr-o chestiune pur formal\u0103, care este f\u0103cut\u0103 doar ca s\u0103 legitimeze candida\u021bii care sunt deja selecta\u021bi de c\u0103tre putere.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;O democra\u021bie care func\u021bioneaz\u0103 doar ca s\u0103 legitimeze ulterior candida\u021bii care sunt deja selecta\u021bi de c\u0103tre putere nu mai este democra\u021bie.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Prin urmare, o democra\u021bie, domnule pre\u0219edinte, trebuie s\u0103 asigure spa\u021biul public \u00een care oamenii s\u0103 discute, s\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2lneasc\u0103, s\u0103-\u0219i confrunte ideile. \u0218i \u00een func\u021bie de aceast\u0103 confruntare, de aceast\u0103 conversa\u021bie public\u0103, de spa\u021biul public, cum se nume\u0219te el \u00een termeni mai mult sau mai pu\u021bin tehnici, \u00een func\u021bie de asta oamenii iau decizii.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Democra\u021bia rom\u00e2neasc\u0103 este deja defect\u0103. \u0218i dac\u0103 dumneavoastr\u0103 g\u00e2ndi\u021bi viitorul \u0219i prezentul democra\u021biei rom\u00e2ne\u0219ti, face\u021bi o evaluare. C\u00e2t la sut\u0103 din spa\u021biul public, ast\u0103zi, este prezent un partid care are 40% \u00een inten\u021bia de vot \u0219i 20% \u00een Parlament?&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Cum se face c\u0103 un partid care are o a\u0219a de mare \u00eensemn\u0103tate electoral\u0103 pentru rom\u00e2ni nu exist\u0103, practic, \u00een spa\u021biul public, comparativ cu alte partide? Cum se face c\u0103 acest partid nu este nici invitat, nici convocat \u0219i nu este nici admis s\u0103-\u0219i exprime, la egalitate cu ceilal\u021bi, opiniile politice? Pentru c\u0103, dac\u0103 lucrurile acestea nu func\u021bioneaz\u0103, deja democra\u021bia rom\u00e2neasc\u0103 este viciat\u0103. \u0218i acest partid nu este l\u0103sat s\u0103 fac\u0103 asta inclusiv pentru c\u0103 mainstream-ul, partidele la putere, nu au r\u0103spunsuri pentru \u00eentreb\u0103rile noastre. Dac\u0103 ar fi capabile s\u0103 furnizeze r\u0103spunsuri legitime, corecte, \u00een afar\u0103 de o retoric\u0103 slab\u0103 de cele mai multe ori, incult\u0103 de fiecare dat\u0103, atunci sigur c\u0103 o conversa\u021bie public\u0103 s-ar putea face.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Dar pentru c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 r\u0103spunsuri legitime, democratice, corecte, decizia care se ia \u0219i \u00een spa\u021biul public, \u0219i \u00een spa\u021biul politic este marginalizarea \u0219i scoaterea din conversa\u021bie a unui partid care are 40% \u00een inten\u021bia de vot \u0219i 20% \u00een Parlament\u201d, a precizat prim-vicepre\u0219edintele AUR, Dan Dungaciu.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Totodat\u0103, prim-vicepre\u0219edintele AUR, Dan Dungaciu, avertizeaz\u0103 c\u0103 Rom\u00e2nia risc\u0103 s\u0103 se \u00eendep\u0103rteze de valorile democra\u021biei occidentale \u0219i s\u0103 ajung\u0103 la un model de democra\u021bie controlat\u0103, \u00een care puterea limiteaz\u0103 dezbaterea \u0219i libertatea de exprimare. Acesta subliniaz\u0103 c\u0103 democra\u021bia presupune dreptul de a contrazice puterea, de a sus\u021bine opinii diferite \u0219i de a l\u0103sa cet\u0103\u021benii s\u0103 decid\u0103 prin vot, avertiz\u00e2nd c\u0103 sacrificarea acestor principii reprezint\u0103 o ofens\u0103 la adresa celor care \u0219i-au dat via\u021ba pentru libertate \u00een 1989.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;\u201eAsta nu este democra\u021bie, domnule Dan. Asta este democra\u021bie controlat\u0103, democra\u021bie dirijat\u0103.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;Prin urmare, dac\u0103 v\u0103 preocup\u0103 democra\u021bia, haide\u021bi s\u0103 vorbim cu adev\u0103rat despre democra\u021bie. Democra\u021bia este despre to\u021bi \u0219i democra\u021bia, domnule Dan, nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 s\u0103 fim de acord cu tot ce spune, face sau sugereaz\u0103 puterea.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Democra\u021bia \u00eenseamn\u0103 s\u0103 avem dreptul s\u0103 v\u0103 contrazicem, s\u0103 avem dreptul s\u0103 punem argumentele noastre pe mas\u0103. C\u0103 e vorba despre Rom\u00e2nia? C\u0103 este vorba despre democra\u021bia din \u021bara noastr\u0103? C\u0103 este vorba despre federalizare? C\u0103 este vorba despre centralizarea de la Bruxelles? C\u0103 este vorba despre toate aceste subiecte majore pe care dumneavoastr\u0103 prefera\u021bi s\u0103 le comenta\u021bi \u0219i s\u0103 le discuta\u021bi izolat, \u00eentr-un turn de filde\u0219, f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 ave\u021bi curajul, b\u0103rb\u0103\u021bia, s\u0103 lua\u021bi argumentele contrare \u0219i s\u0103 schimb\u0103m opinii, s\u0103 vedem \u00een ochii celorlal\u021bi cine are, p\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103, dreptate?&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;S\u0103 l\u0103s\u0103m, altminteri spus, cet\u0103\u021benii Rom\u00e2niei s\u0103 decid\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103 voteze. Despre asta este vorba \u00een democra\u021bie, domnule pre\u0219edinte, pentru c\u0103, altminteri, a\u0219a cum Ion Iliescu g\u00e2ndea democra\u021bia original\u0103, dumneavoastr\u0103, g\u00e2ndind alegerile originale, nu face\u021bi dec\u00e2t s\u0103 duce\u021bi Rom\u00e2nia \u00een tab\u0103ra democra\u021biilor de tip rusesc.&lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;br \/&gt; &lt;\/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;\u0218i cred c\u0103 aici ar trebui s\u0103 fie principala dumneavoastr\u0103 miz\u0103 politic\u0103 sau de genera\u021bie. S\u0103 ajungem, dup\u0103 30 de ani de la democra\u021bia lui Ion Iliescu, la o democra\u021bie de tip rusesc? \u00censeamn\u0103 cel mai mare e\u0219ec, cea mai mare ofens\u0103 la adresa celor care, \u00een 1989, domnule pre\u0219edinte, \u0219i-au dat via\u021ba pentru a avea libertate de expresie, libertatea de exprimare, libertatea politic\u0103 \u0219i, \u00een ultim\u0103 instan\u021b\u0103, o democra\u021bie. Nu o democra\u021bie original\u0103, o democra\u021bie occidental\u0103\u201d, a transmis prim-vicepre\u0219edintele AUR, Dan Dungaciu.&lt;\/div&gt;<\/div>\n<p>[analyse_source url=&#8221;https:\/\/www.activenews.ro\/stiri\/Dan-Dungaciu-AUR-De-la-democratia-originala-a-lui-Ion-Iliescu-la-alegerile-originale-ale-lui-Nicusor-Dan.-Asta-nu-este-democratie-domnule-Dan.-Asta-este-democratie-controlata-democratie-dirijata-209222&#8243;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[analyse_image type=&#8221;featured&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.activenews.ro\/images\/articole\/209222.jpeg&#8221;] &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-weight: bold;&#8221;&gt;Prim-vicepre\u0219edintele AUR Dan Dungaciu critic\u0103 declara\u021biile pre\u0219edintelui Nicu\u0219or Dan privind legitimitatea alegerilor, avertiz\u00e2nd c\u0103 ideea potrivit c\u0103reia scrutinul nu se rezum\u0103 la num\u0103rarea voturilor poate deschide calea c\u0103tre interven\u021bia statului \u00een modul \u00een care cet\u0103\u021benii g\u00e2ndesc \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i exprim\u0103 op\u021biunile politice.&lt;\/span&gt; Acesta atrage aten\u021bia c\u0103 democra\u021bia presupune libertatea de g\u00e2ndire, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[89],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2244626","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-romania"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2244626","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2244626"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2244626\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2244626"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2244626"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2244626"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}