{"id":2241822,"date":"2026-11-06T16:24:48","date_gmt":"2026-11-06T13:24:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=2241822"},"modified":"2026-11-06T16:24:48","modified_gmt":"2026-11-06T13:24:48","slug":"why-tom-petty-origins-1971-1978-isnt-your-normal-box-set-the-important-thing-was-making-a-good-album","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=2241822","title":{"rendered":"Why Tom Petty \u2018Origins 1971-1978\u2019 Isn\u2019t Your Normal Box Set: \u2018The Important Thing Was Making a Good Album\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"
\n\tAdria Petty says an anniversary, to her, is \u201ca very uncool marketing thing.\u201d But this year\u2019s 50th anniversary of the self-titled debut album by her father, the late Tom Petty, and his band the Heartbreakers was too good of a storytelling opportunity to pass up.<\/p>\n
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\n\t\u201cI really want to acknowledge the Heartbreakers this year, \u2019cause they\u2019re all alive and have achieved so much and are still going strong now,\u201d Petty \u2014 who co-produced the new box set Origins 1971-78<\/em> \u2014 tells Billboard<\/em> via Zoom from California. \u201cThis anniversary is really important to us. It\u2019s really important to us that everybody gets their flowers when they\u2019re still alive\u2026. (Origins<\/em>) is the musical diagram to how Tom became Tom and the Heartbreakers and how they found their way to this music.\u201d<\/p>\n
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\n\tOut Friday (Nov. 6), Origins<\/em> represents a two-year undertaking that dove deep into Petty and the Heartbreakers\u2019 vaults, primarily conducted by the Petty Legacy LLC brain trust which also includes longtime producer\/engineer Ryan Ulyate and managers Will Botwin and Scott Greer. The multi-disc set includes new mixes of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers<\/em> and 1978\u2019s You\u2019re Gonna Get It!<\/em> (with extended versions of some of the tracks), an unreleased Live From the Record Plant 1977<\/em> performance and videos from the BBC\u2019s Old Grey Whistle Test <\/em>in 1978.<\/p>\n
\n\tThe focal point, however, is No Sleep Til L.A<\/em>., which features a dozen early tracks from 1971-77 \u2014 recorded by the pre-Heartbreakers band Mudcrutch and Petty solo in addition to the Heartbreakers \u2014 as well as five more included on an EP dubbed The Cut Out Bin<\/em>. Those will also be issued as a separate, individual album as well as on the box set.<\/p>\n
\n\t\u201cThis body of work, to me, is sort of a Rosetta Stone for rock \u2018n\u2019 roll in a weird way,\u201d explains Adria Petty, a music video and commercial director in addition to her Petty Legacy role. Since Tom Petty\u2019s death in 2017 at the age of 66, she\u2019s also co-produced archival projects. \u201cThey could take it to reggae, they could take it to disco, they could take it to soul, they could really take it to country rock \u2014 this, that or the other. They went their own way and became an amalgam of all that. They were just experimenting, making noise together that they liked. My responsibility here is to point out the cultural importance, that during disco, during their aftermath of Vietnam, these guys blazed their own trail and kept it going for 50 years.\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tHeartbreakers keyboardist Benmont Tench, who was also part of Mudcrutch along with Petty and guitarist Mike Campbell, confirms via Zoom from his home that before the first Heartbreakers album, \u201cWe were searching. I think (No Sleep Til L.A.\/The Cut Out Bin<\/em>) is nice because you can hear where Tom is listening to some country stuff and also listening to R&B and to Van Morrison. And the rest of us are just going, \u2018Oh, this fits around what he\u2019s saying\u2019 and playing it. Mudcrutch and the Heartbreakers were both great bands,\u201d he says. \u201cFrom the first minute of the Heartbreakers it was really natural and easy, and the first couple of records are the sound of us finding out what we could do. You can hear the excitement, us going, \u2018Oh, this is good!’\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tStan Lynch, the Heartbreakers\u2019 drummer from 1976-94, adds that the material provides an accurate snapshot of the band at that time. \u201cWhat I hear as I listen now is those are some old souls, boys doing men\u2019s work,\u201d he says. \u201cWe were driven. We were desperate. We were hungry \u2014 and we were good. We weren\u2019t messing around. We didn\u2019t care about anything but the music. We were just feral in those days, and you can hear that.\u201d<\/p>\n
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\n\tUlyate, who met Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers via Jeff Lynne and began working full-time with 2008\u2019s Mudcrutch<\/em> reunion album, says that once he got the word about the Origins<\/em> project from Adria Petty, \u201cMy job was just to go through every tape that we had \u2014 and there\u2019s a lot.\u201d That meant cataloging \u201cevery multi-track tape they made from 1971-78,\u201d which he says was probably more than 100. Ulyate was also insistent that \u201cI wanted to make sure people heard this in the best way possible, so we didn\u2019t find a bunch of cassettes or bootlegs.\u201d That was a slight disappointment for Tench, who had a set of Mudcrutch demos recorded in his family\u2019s living room back in Gainesville, Fla., that he offered for consideration.<\/p>\n
\n\t\u201cIt sounded like a 45 from a band in Detroit in 1968 to me,\u201d he says. \u201cI was told the fidelity wasn\u2019t good enough, and I\u2019m like, \u2018That\u2019s the point!\u2019\u201d But Tench adds, \u201cI still love it. I always like it if we can find something good and we can put out something good. I don\u2019t want to ever get to the point where we put out unreleased stuff that\u2019s like, \u2018Oh, I can see why thiswasn\u2019t released.’\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tAdria Petty says that \u201cfive or six times\u201d more than the 17 unreleased tracks were considered for Origins<\/em>, with a good deal of discussion and debate among the production team. She herself was outvoted on the inclusion of the yacht-rock-style track \u201cSave Me,\u201d but there was great consensus about others, including \u201cParade of Loons,\u201d which the Heartbreakers recorded between the first two albums, the goofy \u201cSin City,\u201d the reggae-tinged \u201cYou\u2019re Gonna Learn\u201d and Tom Petty\u2019s solo acoustic rendition of \u201cUnheard of Kind of Hero,\u201d which dates back to 1976.<\/p>\n
No Sleep Til L.A<\/em>. also includes original recordings of Mudcrutch songs such as \u201cI Can\u2019t Fight It,\u201d \u201cDepot Street\u201d and \u201cUp in Mississippi Tonight\u201d that were included on the 1995 compilation Playback<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n
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\n\t\u201cWe\u2019re lucky that we found tracks that were representative of that whole period of time,\u201d Ulyate explains. \u201cThe important thing, really, was making a good album. It wasn\u2019t necessarily making a historical thing; it had to be a good album. So we picked the tracks and fought over them and got to the right amount of tracks for an album, and then put the rest of what we liked on The Cut Out Bin<\/em>.<\/p>\n
\n\t\u201cTom Petty was always into the album. An album is something you listen to in one sitting; the first song kicks ass and makes you want to listen to the rest of it, and the last song on side one makes you want to flip it over to side two. So we sequenced it as if it was an album, to take you on a journey and not worry about the chronology of the tracks.\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tAdria Petty says her votes were guided by the simple matter of what her father would approve of.<\/p>\n
\n\t\u201cMy dad used music to raise me\u2026and I was around a lot when he made records and they were playing back everything in the studio and picking singles, so I think I have a pretty good idea of what he would\u2019ve to come out \u2014 and what he wouldn\u2019t,\u201d she says. \u201cSo we didn\u2019t leave stuff on the cutting room floor; we pulled stuff that didn\u2019t stand on its own. I feel like between this and Playback<\/em> you really have everything from the archive that Tom would\u2019ve wanted out.\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tUlyate was responsible for the eight extended versions of tracks from the two studio albums \u2014 including \u201cAmerican Girl,\u201d \u201cBreakdown,\u201d \u201cFooled Again (I Don\u2019t Like It)\u201d and Too Much Ain\u2019t Enough<\/em>\u2018s title track. \u201cSometimes these guys were so into it they\u2019d play for another minute or so beyond the fade-out that\u2019s on the record,\u201d he explains. \u201cWe weren\u2019t constrained by time, so my feeling was if there\u2019s something that was good that we didn\u2019t hear on the original record, let\u2019s hear it. As long as it\u2019s interesting, let\u2019s keep going.\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tTench was all for it, with a caveat. \u201cI think it\u2019s interesting,\u201d he says, \u201cas long as the original (version) is still available, too, \u2019cause that\u2019s why people fell in love with it. To get an extended version and hear what Mike kept playing, that\u2019s cool. But I still think there\u2019s a reason why we faded it when we did, before we put it out \u2014 no shade on Mike, no shade on Ryan.\u201d<\/p>\n
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\n\tThe Heartbreakers \u2014 particularly Tench and Campbell, who have been more involved with some of the archival projects \u2014 also had input on the Origins<\/em> tracklist. \u201cThey mixed a bunch of stuff and sequenced it and played it for me to see what I thought, and they listened to my input,\u201d Tench says. \u201cThere were a couple I said, \u2018I don\u2019t think that shows us in our best light. I think there\u2019s better stuff in there,\u2019 and I think they dropped one or two songs and may have changed the sequence a little bit, but not much. I just appreciate the fact I\u2019m consulted and I\u2019m heard.\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tUlyate recalls one memorable listening session for Origins<\/em> with all four surviving original Heartbreakers \u2014 including bassist Ron Blair \u2014 in Los Angeles. (The four performed together, joined by Chris Stapleton, at this year\u2019s Americana Honors & Awards on Sept. 16 in Nashville). \u201cWe always want to make sure they\u2019re happy with it; they\u2019re definitely part of the approval process,\u201d he says. \u201cSo we had a playback for them at Sound City, just to get their reaction to it. They were all sitting down in chairs and listening to this stuff, and I was really happy see they were happy with it. That meant we\u2019re doing a good job. It was really nice, and Stan said, \u2018Boy, this sounds great.\u2019 I\u2019m like, \u2018Thank you.’\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tAs Origins<\/em> arrives, Adria Petty promises that more will be coming during the next 12 months, what she calls \u201cmicro activations every month that are really special, really loving to this band and Tom\u201d \u2014 although she can\u2019t yet specify what those will be. Petty Legacy is also planning \u201ca bigger project about the \u201870s that hopefully will come off in the next year.\u201d<\/p>\n
\n\tTench voices a desire to see an expanded edition of 1987\u2019s Let Me Up (I\u2019ve Had Enough),<\/em> while Ulyate says he remains at the ready for whatever the estate focuses on next.<\/p>\n
\n\t\u201cThere are so many ways we can go,\u201d he notes. \u201cWhat I tell people is that I\u2019m here, I\u2019m ready, I\u2019m waiting. I know what we\u2019ve got, and anywhere you want to go, let\u2019s go there. There\u2019s plenty of stuff there, all sorts of places we can go. We\u2019re really lucky that Tom kept all those tapes\u2026and kept track of them. The fact he was so fastidious about his tape library is rare\u2026and really lets us do these special things.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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