{"id":1922323,"date":"2026-05-07T08:49:17","date_gmt":"2026-05-07T05:49:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=1922323"},"modified":"2026-05-07T08:49:17","modified_gmt":"2026-05-07T05:49:17","slug":"american-football-on-inspiring-new-generations-and-their-most-adventurous-album-yet-it-sounds-like-were-on-a-different-planet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=1922323","title":{"rendered":"American Football on inspiring new generations and their most adventurous album yet: \u201cIt sounds like we\u2019re on a different planet\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[analyse_image type=&#8221;featured&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/american_football_Alexa_Viscius_1.jpg&#8221;]<\/p>\n<article id=\"template-id-2749694\" class=\"post-2749694 tdb_templates type-tdb_templates status-publish post\">\n<div id=\"tdi_65\" class=\"tdc-zone\">\n<div class=\"tdc_zone tdi_66  wpb_row td-pb-row\">\n<div id=\"tdi_67\" class=\"tdc-row stretch_row_1400 td-stretch-content\">\n<div class=\"vc_row tdi_68  wpb_row td-pb-row\">\n<div class=\"vc_column tdi_70  wpb_column vc_column_container tdc-column td-pb-span12\">\n<div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_breadcrumbs tdi_71 td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2 tdb-breadcrumbs \" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_71\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><span>News<\/span><span>Music News<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_title tdi_72 tdb-single-title td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2\" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_72\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<h1 class=\"tdb-title-text\">American Football on inspiring new generations and their most adventurous album yet: \u201cIt sounds like we\u2019re on a different planet\u201d<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_single_subtitle tdi_73 td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2\" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_73\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<p>The midwest emo heroes tell NME about splitting up on the journey to &#8216;LP4&#8217;, teaming with Turnstile&#8217;s Brendan Yates, and the modesty beauty of &#8220;kids writing songs in their bedroom&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_single_author tdi_75 td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2 tdb-post-meta\" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_75\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<div class=\"tdb-author-name-wrap\"><span class=\"tdb-author-by\">By<\/span> Andrew Trendell<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_single_date tdi_76 td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2 tdb-post-meta\" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_76\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\"><time class=\"entry-date updated td-module-date\" datetime=\"2026-05-07T09:49:17+01:00\">7th May 2026<\/time><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"tdi_77\" class=\"tdc-row stretch_row_1400 td-stretch-content\">\n<div class=\"vc_row tdi_78  wpb_row td-pb-row\">\n<div class=\"vc_column tdi_80  wpb_column vc_column_container tdc-column td-pb-span8\">\n<div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_single_featured_image tdi_81 tdb-content-horiz-left td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2\" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_81\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"696\" height=\"442\" class=\"entry-thumb\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/american_football_Alexa_Viscius_1-696x442.jpg\" alt=\"American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius\" title=\"American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius\"><figcaption class=\"tdb-caption-text\">American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"vc_row_inner tdi_83 article-content-row vc_row vc_inner wpb_row td-pb-row\">\n<div class=\"vc_column_inner tdi_85  wpb_column vc_column_container tdc-inner-column td-pb-span12\">\n<div class=\"vc_column-inner\">\n<div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_single_content tdi_86 td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2 td-post-content tagdiv-type\" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_86\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<p>American Football have spoken to <em>NME<\/em> about their enduring influence on new generations, and what went into their widescreen new album \u2018LP4\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>The US-alt rock pioneers would become one of the seminal bands of the midwest emo scene in the years after their seminal 1999 self-titled debut (known retrospectively as \u2018LP1\u2019), and in the time between their split the following year and 2014 reunion. They\u2019ve released three more albums since then, the last being \u2018LP3\u2019 in 2019 and a 25th anniversary reissue of their debut album with covers by the likes of Ethel Cain, Blondshell, Manchester Orchestra, Iron &amp; Wine and more.<\/p>\n<div class=\"td-a-ad id_inline_ad0 id_ad_content-horiz-center\"><span class=\"td-adspot-title\">Advertisement<\/span><\/div>\n<p>These names just scratch the surface of the countless artists they\u2019ve inspired and how they broke down boundaries and genre to allow for a more emotional and cinematic approach to rock. Another such act would be Turnstile, with frontman Brendan Yates featuring on \u2018No Feeling\u2019 \u2013 their latest album released last week (Friday May 1).<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; width=&#8221;696&#8243; height=&#8221;392&#8243; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/rtW3Z0phrrI?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&#8243; frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; allow=&#8221;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#8221; referrerpolicy=&#8221;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#8221; allowfullscreen=&#8221;&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was more just a happy accident of hanging out in the same room,\u201d frontman Mike Kinsella said of how the collab came about. \u201cWe happened to be recording in LA and he was living there. I knew there was this part that had gang vocals so the more the merrier would make it cooler, but I didn\u2019t know he was going to take the whole part.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn the studio he was hearing all these harmonies, and then by the time he worked his way to the highest one it sounded like Turnstile, which sounded amazing! We\u2019re all fans. We just turned around to each other and said, \u2018OK, that\u2019s his part now, nobody else gets to sing on it\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"td-a-ad id_inline_ad1 id_ad_content-horiz-center\">\n<h5 class=\"taboola-mid-article-title\">Recommended<\/h5>\n<\/div>\n<p>Asked if Turnstile felt like they followed in a sort of creative lineage from American Football given their adventurous approach to rock and atmosphere, Kinsella replied:\u00a0\u201cIt\u2019s a high compliment, we are truly fans. In the same way that they\u2019re not just a hardcore band, there are always other elements that they keep expanding on. They\u2019re also still expanding their sonic world. We\u2019re kindredly also trying to keep ourselves interested.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Drummer Steve Lamos recalled meeting Turnstile after a show in Denver in 2021. \u201cI liked their music to a degree, but I didn\u2019t fully grasp it until I saw it live,\u201d he said. \u201cThere was an energy and positivity to what they were doing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey said that they would listen to our band when they were younger. I just remember sitting thinking, \u2018These are decent humans\u2019. It\u2019s really quite flattering that Brendan did us that solid of being on this song because he really didn\u2019t have to.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3931429\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3931429\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3931429\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/American_Football_Alexa_Viscius.jpg\" alt width=\"2000\" height=\"1270\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3931429\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football. CREDIT: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"td-a-ad id_inline_ad2 id_ad_content-horiz-center\"><span class=\"td-adspot-title\">Advertisement<\/span><\/div>\n<p>Check out the rest of our interview with Kinsella along with guitarist Steve Holmes and drummer Steve Lamos below, where they tell us about exploring weird new sounds, what later generations of emo have taken from them, and how a band that once couldn\u2019t imagine making a second record see the future.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>NME<\/em>: Hello American Football! How\u2019s life been in the seven long years since \u2018LP3\u2019?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Mike Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cBusy! There was that global pandemic and what not. The band broke up again and then got back together again. We\u2019ve got this guy Trump over here, this motherfucker. There\u2019s a lot going on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What does it take to bring the band back together?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cWe went through a lot of stuff. I asked to come back in 2023, so I\u2019d maybe been gone in two and a half years. In the meantime, Mike and Nate made a really incredible Lies record. We talked first about whether we wanted to do the reunion stuff. We didn\u2019t want to do the reunion stuff, but it ended up being pretty amazing. We\u2019ve been pretty consistent in this band that if we want to keep playing then we want to keep making new things.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe opening track of this record [\u2018Man Overboard\u2019] is one that\u2019s been floating around for a while and I\u2019ve always hung on to that. It made me think that \u2018LP4\u2019 sounded like a good idea. We worked from there and I think it turned out real well. I\u2019m real proud of this record myself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; width=&#8221;696&#8243; height=&#8221;392&#8243; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/f1X1iPcbTW8?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&#8243; frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; allow=&#8221;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#8221; referrerpolicy=&#8221;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#8221; allowfullscreen=&#8221;&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong>For a band who never intended to make it past your first album, how does it feel to be on your fourth?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cWe sure do take our time doing things, but it seems natural. In the arc of the whole thing, maybe we rushed the second record. We weren\u2019t as comfortable or confident with what we wanted to do, but we wanted to keep doing it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was brand new to use somehow after not playing for 15 years. The third and the fourth one seemed totally natural to us. We were like, \u2018It\u2019s so fun to be on tour, so let\u2019s keep writing songs and stay in this band and keep doing it\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s been over a decade since the first reunion album. How would you say the inner chemistry of American Football has changed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cIt does seem like a long gap between \u2018LP3\u2019 and \u2018LP4\u2019 from the outside, but from our perspective we knew we were going to take a year off after that record because we toured a lot for a bunch of guys that have kids and jobs outside of the band. We planned to take a year\u2019s hiatus and then the pandemic happened.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe started to write the fourth record virtually and then Lamos decided to step away from the band about 2021. Mike says we broke up but I think we waited Lamos out. We hadn\u2019t officially broken up, but we started focussing on other things like this covers record for the anniversary. That was a placeholder while we waited Lamos out. The gap went even longer because we\u2019d been sitting on \u2018LP4\u2019, then the covers record span into a 25th anniversary reissue and remaster which we didn\u2019t think was possible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What did you get out of celebrating \u2018LP1\u2019 like that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cWe toured for the anniversary and it felt good to re-envision \u2018LP1\u2019 again because in 2014 when we played it, we didn\u2019t really know what we were doing. It was warts-and-all and a lot of them weren\u2019t great performances. I\u2019d not been in the band in a decade and we were learning how to be a band in front of thousands of people, which is awkward. You know, a decade later we actually know what we\u2019re doing now.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn that 2023-2024 gap, we became the best live band we\u2019d ever been and we were simultaneously working on the most exciting music that we\u2019d ever written. To me, from \u2018LP2\u2019 to \u2018LP3\u2019 and \u2018LP4\u2019, every record is a natural progression and pushing the boundaries of what the band is sonically and where we can go live and on record. That\u2019s what a band should be. If you\u2019re not challenging yourself and trying to do new and cool things, then what\u2019s the point?\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3944301\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3944301\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3944301\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/american_football_Alexa_Viscius_2.jpg\" alt=\"American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius\" width=\"1326\" height=\"2000\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3944301\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>How did that progress of re-working the first album and becoming the band that you never were shape \u2018LP4?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos<\/strong>: \u201cI didn\u2019t really want to do it, but it was magic! It was such a cool thing to travel around and connect with people. It was pretty humbling. The state of affairs these days is maybe of gratitude, humility or something. It feels like a real band now but we\u2019re middle-aged people, family members get ill and stuff happens. It\u2019s incredible that we get to pull this off, so I hope that bled into \u2018LP4\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt feels like \u2018LP4\u2019 is everybody trying to give as much as they can give to the larger thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>You\u2019ve said before that the writing and recording of this one was drastically different to before?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cSomehow, right after \u2018LP3\u2019, we tried to work more remotely, maybe because it was logistically impossible to get together more often. It was stressful in all these ways, and maybe people weren\u2019t feeling as heard. Somehow between that, COVID and coming back to it, I think we ironed out how to do it in a way where it was just productive and valuable instead of frustrating.\u201d<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>READ MORE: American Football interview: \u201cWe fell into this thing totally backwards 25 years ago\u201d<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>It feels like there\u2019s a balance between a real weight to the record and a lot of space. Sonically, how would you describe the weight of \u2018LP4\u2019 and where it takes things?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cThere\u2019s definitely space. A lot of these songs started from a-melodic drones, and just by having that element often buried under the songs often puts you in a different space. It doesn\u2019t sound like guys in a room anymore, it sounds like we\u2019re on a different planet maybe, which is kind of the goal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cThere\u2019s more dissonance on this record than on maybe any of our previous records. That\u2019s on purpose I think.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019ve been playing with \u2018Patron Saint [Of Pale]\u2019, and it\u2019s so open. It\u2019s the anti-American Football song. There are no notes! We\u2019ve been about notes for 30 years, and I love it, but this feels like a different thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes: \u201c<\/strong>Shredding on a big chord is a thing I\u2019ve not done often in this band.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cWe\u2019re considered a guitar-oriented band, but a lot of these songs were not written on guitar. Where the songs came from is so different to American Football songs from before.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Will \u2018LP5\u2019 just be unlistenable noise rock then?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella<\/strong>: \u201cI hope so!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos<\/strong>: \u201cThe guys just found a bunch of pictures of themselves from high school, so we\u2019ve already found the cover art. It\u2019ll be about having dyed blonde hair and being 16. You just got the scoop!\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3944302\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3944302\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3944302\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/american_football_Alexa_Viscius_3.jpg\" alt=\"American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius\" width=\"1326\" height=\"2000\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3944302\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Lyrically, where would you say you\u2019re coming from this time, being at this stage of your life?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cI try to just keep up with the songs. The songs really informed the direction I was going. The first song \u2018Man Overboard\u2019, the drum beat sounds like I\u2019m drunk, on a boat and\/or seasick so the lyrics are around that. There was something haunting about \u2018Desdemona\u2019 and I already had the melody and 150 different iterations of words that fit into it until when I stumbled on the word and the cadence of it; now I can sing about that story. It\u2019s not necessarily a personal story but it\u2019s relatable I guess.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u2018Patron Saint [Of Pale]\u2019 is so playful that it\u2019s almost silly. Somehow I worked \u2018roshambo\u2019 into it just because the song told me to. It\u2019s like <em>Cards Against The Humanity,<\/em> you work backwards from the topic. Then the work is, \u2018How do we make this poignant, funny, sad or something?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you often have people overanalysing the lyrics and not realising they\u2019re just a freak accident?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella<\/strong>: \u201cNone of my lyrics are about anyone, so yeah!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cMike\u2019s lyrics sound famously personal, and while there\u2019s inspiration there I don\u2019t think he gets enough credit for what he\u2019s describing there. Mike also writes in character. Who is the narrator? As dark as a record this is, it\u2019s not necessarily Mike. Some of these are imagined.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3939155\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3939155\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3939155\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/american-football@2000x1270.jpg\" alt width=\"2000\" height=\"1270\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3939155\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football. Credit: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>After Turnstile, are there any other artists you\u2019ve had that connection with that you want to see on \u2018LP5\u2019?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cI had this magical experience with A.G. Cook back in December. I met him and I can\u2019t tell you how exciting it was. I got the chance to play a couple of songs live with him and I won\u2019t forget that. It was life and attitude-changing. I love all that he does and I honestly didn\u2019t know all the things that he had done until I got that opportunity. He was really modest and interesting. That was really special to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cI just saw Dirty Three last week and it was mind-blowing. Jim White might be the greatest drummer alive, and Warren Ellis is a wizard. I would love to play with any of those guys. I\u2019ve been a fan of Jeff Tweedy and Wilco forever. I\u2019ll save it for my solo or side project but I would love to play with that guy some day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The word \u2018influential\u2019 gets applied to American Football more than any other. How often do you sense your influence on music \u2013 not just in terms of sound but approach and aesthetic?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cIn the 15 years we weren\u2019t playing, I was noticing bands noodling around on their guitars and it felt in our world and American Football-esque. I also noticed that they all surpassed us in that world! All these midwest emo bands shred in a way that we never did. We\u2019re a bit more reserved and it\u2019s a bit more interlocking. Everyone is doing with one guitar player what me and Holmes were doing together on the first album. I don\u2019t really think about that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAesthetically, I don\u2019t know if we\u2019re a joke and people are making fun of us. Are we so old and not cool that it\u2019s fun to make fun of us, or are people into it? I\u2019m so old and not cool I\u2019ll never know the answer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cI was at an academic musicology conference recently for emo music called Emo Con. They asked me to speak and I got to act as a professor. The bands I really wanted to speak about were Hayley Williams, Paramore and My Chemical Romance. I feel like they were the driving forces behind so many folks there. Hayley is amazing. I honestly don\u2019t know much about My Chemical Romance, but the stuff I\u2019ve heard \u2013 I totally get it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t think it\u2019s our place to worry about this necessarily, but I felt so flattered to be part of this conversation and that these were my people. There was an interesting energy around these people who were not afraid to wear their hearts on their sleeves and be a bit cringe. I don\u2019t care if they\u2019re laughing with me, it\u2019s just cool to be part of the conversation. To see how impactful Hayley Williams or My Chemical Romance have been on a kajillion people, that\u2019s the driving energy behind a lot of us. I\u2019m just glad to be on the bus, but it\u2019s all gravy. It\u2019s all come back around to us in a cool way.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; width=&#8221;696&#8243; height=&#8221;522&#8243; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/iQYXy_czQVg?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&#8243; frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; allow=&#8221;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#8221; referrerpolicy=&#8221;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#8221; allowfullscreen=&#8221;&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>There were a lot of excited fans of The 1975 when you were announced for to support them at Finsbury Park in 2023.\u00a0What is it about what you do that continues to inspire new generations of fans? Not all bands from the time you emerged are afforded that luxury\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cMaybe earnestness and trying to be sincere? Maybe that sounds stupid to say out loud.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cWe\u2019re so content to not be cool. Our first album is so small, that forever and ever kids are going to discover that and relate to it. It\u2019s not aggressive or in your face.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cIt feels attainable in its modesty: kids writing songs in their bedroom. It\u2019s three people writing and playing in a room, mostly one or two takes, it\u2019s wobbly as fuck, there\u2019s no fix-up or autotune, it\u2019s just people playing music. Since we got back in 2023, the audience does feel rejuvenated with younger kids \u2013 even younger than the previous decade. It\u2019s really cool to feel like the old guys, like how we\u2019d go to see Fugazi when we were teenagers. To be in a band that is inspiring others to pick up an instrument and start their own band is the coolest thing you could ask for.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u2018LP4\u2019 is out now. American Football\u00a0will be hitting the road again in 2026, with shows kicking off in the US this mont before heading over to the UK and Europe later in the summer. You can find UK tickets here, and here\u00a0for international dates.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap tdb_single_tags tdi_87 td-pb-border-top td_block_template_2\" data-td-block-uid=\"tdi_87\">\n<div class=\"tdb-block-inner td-fix-index\">\n<ul class=\"tdb-tags\">\n<li><span>Related Topics<\/span><\/li>\n<li>American Football<\/li>\n<li>Hardcore<\/li>\n<li>Hayley Williams<\/li>\n<li>Indie<\/li>\n<li>My Chemical Romance<\/li>\n<li>Paramore<\/li>\n<li>Turnstile<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpb_wrapper td_block_wrap vc_raw_html tdi_89 \">\n<div class=\"td-fix-index\">\n<h3>You May Also Like<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"vc_column tdi_91  wpb_column vc_column_container tdc-column td-pb-span4 td-is-sticky\">\n<div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n<div class=\"td-a-rec td-a-rec-id-sidebar  tdi_92 td_block_template_2\"><span class=\"td-adspot-title\">Advertisement<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"td_block_wrap 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td-fix-index\">\n<p>American Football have spoken to <em>NME<\/em> about their enduring influence on new generations, and what went into their widescreen new album \u2018LP4\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>The US-alt rock pioneers would become one of the seminal bands of the midwest emo scene in the years after their seminal 1999 self-titled debut (known retrospectively as \u2018LP1\u2019), and in the time between their split the following year and 2014 reunion. They\u2019ve released three more albums since then, the last being \u2018LP3\u2019 in 2019 and a 25th anniversary reissue of their debut album with covers by the likes of Ethel Cain, Blondshell, Manchester Orchestra, Iron &amp; Wine and more.<\/p>\n<div class=\"td-a-ad id_inline_ad0 id_ad_content-horiz-center\"><span class=\"td-adspot-title\">Advertisement<\/span><\/div>\n<p>These names just scratch the surface of the countless artists they\u2019ve inspired and how they broke down boundaries and genre to allow for a more emotional and cinematic approach to rock. Another such act would be Turnstile, with frontman Brendan Yates featuring on \u2018No Feeling\u2019 \u2013 their latest album released last week (Friday May 1).<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; width=&#8221;696&#8243; height=&#8221;392&#8243; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/rtW3Z0phrrI?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&#8243; frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; allow=&#8221;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#8221; referrerpolicy=&#8221;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#8221; allowfullscreen=&#8221;&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was more just a happy accident of hanging out in the same room,\u201d frontman Mike Kinsella said of how the collab came about. \u201cWe happened to be recording in LA and he was living there. I knew there was this part that had gang vocals so the more the merrier would make it cooler, but I didn\u2019t know he was going to take the whole part.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn the studio he was hearing all these harmonies, and then by the time he worked his way to the highest one it sounded like Turnstile, which sounded amazing! We\u2019re all fans. We just turned around to each other and said, \u2018OK, that\u2019s his part now, nobody else gets to sing on it\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"td-a-ad id_inline_ad1 id_ad_content-horiz-center\">\n<h5 class=\"taboola-mid-article-title\">Recommended<\/h5>\n<\/div>\n<p>Asked if Turnstile felt like they followed in a sort of creative lineage from American Football given their adventurous approach to rock and atmosphere, Kinsella replied:\u00a0\u201cIt\u2019s a high compliment, we are truly fans. In the same way that they\u2019re not just a hardcore band, there are always other elements that they keep expanding on. They\u2019re also still expanding their sonic world. We\u2019re kindredly also trying to keep ourselves interested.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Drummer Steve Lamos recalled meeting Turnstile after a show in Denver in 2021. \u201cI liked their music to a degree, but I didn\u2019t fully grasp it until I saw it live,\u201d he said. \u201cThere was an energy and positivity to what they were doing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey said that they would listen to our band when they were younger. I just remember sitting thinking, \u2018These are decent humans\u2019. It\u2019s really quite flattering that Brendan did us that solid of being on this song because he really didn\u2019t have to.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3931429\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3931429\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3931429\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/American_Football_Alexa_Viscius.jpg\" alt width=\"2000\" height=\"1270\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3931429\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football. CREDIT: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"td-a-ad id_inline_ad2 id_ad_content-horiz-center\"><span class=\"td-adspot-title\">Advertisement<\/span><\/div>\n<p>Check out the rest of our interview with Kinsella along with guitarist Steve Holmes and drummer Steve Lamos below, where they tell us about exploring weird new sounds, what later generations of emo have taken from them, and how a band that once couldn\u2019t imagine making a second record see the future.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>NME<\/em>: Hello American Football! How\u2019s life been in the seven long years since \u2018LP3\u2019?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Mike Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cBusy! There was that global pandemic and what not. The band broke up again and then got back together again. We\u2019ve got this guy Trump over here, this motherfucker. There\u2019s a lot going on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What does it take to bring the band back together?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cWe went through a lot of stuff. I asked to come back in 2023, so I\u2019d maybe been gone in two and a half years. In the meantime, Mike and Nate made a really incredible Lies record. We talked first about whether we wanted to do the reunion stuff. We didn\u2019t want to do the reunion stuff, but it ended up being pretty amazing. We\u2019ve been pretty consistent in this band that if we want to keep playing then we want to keep making new things.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe opening track of this record [\u2018Man Overboard\u2019] is one that\u2019s been floating around for a while and I\u2019ve always hung on to that. It made me think that \u2018LP4\u2019 sounded like a good idea. We worked from there and I think it turned out real well. I\u2019m real proud of this record myself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; width=&#8221;696&#8243; height=&#8221;392&#8243; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/f1X1iPcbTW8?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&#8243; frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; allow=&#8221;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#8221; referrerpolicy=&#8221;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#8221; allowfullscreen=&#8221;&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong>For a band who never intended to make it past your first album, how does it feel to be on your fourth?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cWe sure do take our time doing things, but it seems natural. In the arc of the whole thing, maybe we rushed the second record. We weren\u2019t as comfortable or confident with what we wanted to do, but we wanted to keep doing it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was brand new to use somehow after not playing for 15 years. The third and the fourth one seemed totally natural to us. We were like, \u2018It\u2019s so fun to be on tour, so let\u2019s keep writing songs and stay in this band and keep doing it\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s been over a decade since the first reunion album. How would you say the inner chemistry of American Football has changed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cIt does seem like a long gap between \u2018LP3\u2019 and \u2018LP4\u2019 from the outside, but from our perspective we knew we were going to take a year off after that record because we toured a lot for a bunch of guys that have kids and jobs outside of the band. We planned to take a year\u2019s hiatus and then the pandemic happened.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe started to write the fourth record virtually and then Lamos decided to step away from the band about 2021. Mike says we broke up but I think we waited Lamos out. We hadn\u2019t officially broken up, but we started focussing on other things like this covers record for the anniversary. That was a placeholder while we waited Lamos out. The gap went even longer because we\u2019d been sitting on \u2018LP4\u2019, then the covers record span into a 25th anniversary reissue and remaster which we didn\u2019t think was possible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What did you get out of celebrating \u2018LP1\u2019 like that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cWe toured for the anniversary and it felt good to re-envision \u2018LP1\u2019 again because in 2014 when we played it, we didn\u2019t really know what we were doing. It was warts-and-all and a lot of them weren\u2019t great performances. I\u2019d not been in the band in a decade and we were learning how to be a band in front of thousands of people, which is awkward. You know, a decade later we actually know what we\u2019re doing now.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn that 2023-2024 gap, we became the best live band we\u2019d ever been and we were simultaneously working on the most exciting music that we\u2019d ever written. To me, from \u2018LP2\u2019 to \u2018LP3\u2019 and \u2018LP4\u2019, every record is a natural progression and pushing the boundaries of what the band is sonically and where we can go live and on record. That\u2019s what a band should be. If you\u2019re not challenging yourself and trying to do new and cool things, then what\u2019s the point?\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3944301\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3944301\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3944301\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/american_football_Alexa_Viscius_2.jpg\" alt=\"American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius\" width=\"1326\" height=\"2000\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3944301\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>How did that progress of re-working the first album and becoming the band that you never were shape \u2018LP4?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos<\/strong>: \u201cI didn\u2019t really want to do it, but it was magic! It was such a cool thing to travel around and connect with people. It was pretty humbling. The state of affairs these days is maybe of gratitude, humility or something. It feels like a real band now but we\u2019re middle-aged people, family members get ill and stuff happens. It\u2019s incredible that we get to pull this off, so I hope that bled into \u2018LP4\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt feels like \u2018LP4\u2019 is everybody trying to give as much as they can give to the larger thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>You\u2019ve said before that the writing and recording of this one was drastically different to before?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cSomehow, right after \u2018LP3\u2019, we tried to work more remotely, maybe because it was logistically impossible to get together more often. It was stressful in all these ways, and maybe people weren\u2019t feeling as heard. Somehow between that, COVID and coming back to it, I think we ironed out how to do it in a way where it was just productive and valuable instead of frustrating.\u201d<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>READ MORE: American Football interview: \u201cWe fell into this thing totally backwards 25 years ago\u201d<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>It feels like there\u2019s a balance between a real weight to the record and a lot of space. Sonically, how would you describe the weight of \u2018LP4\u2019 and where it takes things?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cThere\u2019s definitely space. A lot of these songs started from a-melodic drones, and just by having that element often buried under the songs often puts you in a different space. It doesn\u2019t sound like guys in a room anymore, it sounds like we\u2019re on a different planet maybe, which is kind of the goal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cThere\u2019s more dissonance on this record than on maybe any of our previous records. That\u2019s on purpose I think.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019ve been playing with \u2018Patron Saint [Of Pale]\u2019, and it\u2019s so open. It\u2019s the anti-American Football song. There are no notes! We\u2019ve been about notes for 30 years, and I love it, but this feels like a different thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes: \u201c<\/strong>Shredding on a big chord is a thing I\u2019ve not done often in this band.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cWe\u2019re considered a guitar-oriented band, but a lot of these songs were not written on guitar. Where the songs came from is so different to American Football songs from before.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Will \u2018LP5\u2019 just be unlistenable noise rock then?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella<\/strong>: \u201cI hope so!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos<\/strong>: \u201cThe guys just found a bunch of pictures of themselves from high school, so we\u2019ve already found the cover art. It\u2019ll be about having dyed blonde hair and being 16. You just got the scoop!\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3944302\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3944302\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3944302\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/american_football_Alexa_Viscius_3.jpg\" alt=\"American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius\" width=\"1326\" height=\"2000\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3944302\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football, 2026. Credit: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Lyrically, where would you say you\u2019re coming from this time, being at this stage of your life?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cI try to just keep up with the songs. The songs really informed the direction I was going. The first song \u2018Man Overboard\u2019, the drum beat sounds like I\u2019m drunk, on a boat and\/or seasick so the lyrics are around that. There was something haunting about \u2018Desdemona\u2019 and I already had the melody and 150 different iterations of words that fit into it until when I stumbled on the word and the cadence of it; now I can sing about that story. It\u2019s not necessarily a personal story but it\u2019s relatable I guess.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u2018Patron Saint [Of Pale]\u2019 is so playful that it\u2019s almost silly. Somehow I worked \u2018roshambo\u2019 into it just because the song told me to. It\u2019s like <em>Cards Against The Humanity,<\/em> you work backwards from the topic. Then the work is, \u2018How do we make this poignant, funny, sad or something?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you often have people overanalysing the lyrics and not realising they\u2019re just a freak accident?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella<\/strong>: \u201cNone of my lyrics are about anyone, so yeah!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cMike\u2019s lyrics sound famously personal, and while there\u2019s inspiration there I don\u2019t think he gets enough credit for what he\u2019s describing there. Mike also writes in character. Who is the narrator? As dark as a record this is, it\u2019s not necessarily Mike. Some of these are imagined.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3939155\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3939155\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3939155\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/american-football@2000x1270.jpg\" alt width=\"2000\" height=\"1270\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3939155\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">American Football. Credit: Alexa Viscius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>After Turnstile, are there any other artists you\u2019ve had that connection with that you want to see on \u2018LP5\u2019?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cI had this magical experience with A.G. Cook back in December. I met him and I can\u2019t tell you how exciting it was. I got the chance to play a couple of songs live with him and I won\u2019t forget that. It was life and attitude-changing. I love all that he does and I honestly didn\u2019t know all the things that he had done until I got that opportunity. He was really modest and interesting. That was really special to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cI just saw Dirty Three last week and it was mind-blowing. Jim White might be the greatest drummer alive, and Warren Ellis is a wizard. I would love to play with any of those guys. I\u2019ve been a fan of Jeff Tweedy and Wilco forever. I\u2019ll save it for my solo or side project but I would love to play with that guy some day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The word \u2018influential\u2019 gets applied to American Football more than any other. How often do you sense your influence on music \u2013 not just in terms of sound but approach and aesthetic?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cIn the 15 years we weren\u2019t playing, I was noticing bands noodling around on their guitars and it felt in our world and American Football-esque. I also noticed that they all surpassed us in that world! All these midwest emo bands shred in a way that we never did. We\u2019re a bit more reserved and it\u2019s a bit more interlocking. Everyone is doing with one guitar player what me and Holmes were doing together on the first album. I don\u2019t really think about that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAesthetically, I don\u2019t know if we\u2019re a joke and people are making fun of us. Are we so old and not cool that it\u2019s fun to make fun of us, or are people into it? I\u2019m so old and not cool I\u2019ll never know the answer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lamos:<\/strong> \u201cI was at an academic musicology conference recently for emo music called Emo Con. They asked me to speak and I got to act as a professor. The bands I really wanted to speak about were Hayley Williams, Paramore and My Chemical Romance. I feel like they were the driving forces behind so many folks there. Hayley is amazing. I honestly don\u2019t know much about My Chemical Romance, but the stuff I\u2019ve heard \u2013 I totally get it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t think it\u2019s our place to worry about this necessarily, but I felt so flattered to be part of this conversation and that these were my people. There was an interesting energy around these people who were not afraid to wear their hearts on their sleeves and be a bit cringe. I don\u2019t care if they\u2019re laughing with me, it\u2019s just cool to be part of the conversation. To see how impactful Hayley Williams or My Chemical Romance have been on a kajillion people, that\u2019s the driving energy behind a lot of us. I\u2019m just glad to be on the bus, but it\u2019s all gravy. It\u2019s all come back around to us in a cool way.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; width=&#8221;696&#8243; height=&#8221;522&#8243; src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/iQYXy_czQVg?feature=oembed&amp;enablejsapi=1&#8243; frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; allow=&#8221;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&#8221; referrerpolicy=&#8221;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&#8221; allowfullscreen=&#8221;&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>There were a lot of excited fans of The 1975 when you were announced for to support them at Finsbury Park in 2023.\u00a0What is it about what you do that continues to inspire new generations of fans? Not all bands from the time you emerged are afforded that luxury\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Holmes:<\/strong> \u201cMaybe earnestness and trying to be sincere? Maybe that sounds stupid to say out loud.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kinsella:<\/strong> \u201cWe\u2019re so content to not be cool. 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