{"id":1804591,"date":"2026-03-03T17:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-03-03T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=1804591"},"modified":"2026-03-03T17:00:00","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T14:00:00","slug":"the-internet-was-a-bad-parent-to-me-2hollis-and-arca-in-conversation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/analyse.optim.biz\/?p=1804591","title":{"rendered":"\u2018The internet was a bad parent to me\u2019: 2hollis and Arca in conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[analyse_image type=&#8221;featured&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1200\/0-623-2400-1600\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439955.jpg&#8221;]<\/p>\n<article class=\"main-article longread\">\n<div class=\"article-main-content article-wrapper has-media-but-its-an-image\" data-status=\"loaded\" data-primary-article=\"true\" data-url=\"\/music\/article\/69802\/1\/2hollis-arca-in-conversation-dazed-spring-2026-issue\" data-article-id=\"69802\">\n<header class=\"article-header has-portrait-image no-media\">\n<div class=\"wrapper dg-max-width\">\n<div class=\"inner\">\n<figure class=\"main-img no-figcaption\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.8\" data-template=\"Longread Article\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"DC291_Covers_2hollis_4x5\" class=\"img\" height=\"3000\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1280\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439955.jpg\" width=\"2400\"><\/span><\/span><\/figure>\n<aside class=\"meta\">\n<div class=\"inner\"><time datetime=\"2026-03-03T17:00:00+00:00\" class=\"timestamp\" title=\"03 March 2026\"><span class=\"month\">DateInMeta<\/span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<span class=\"day\" data-day=\"3\">3,<\/span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<span class=\"year\">2026<\/span><\/time><\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<div class=\"titles\">\n<div class=\"tags\">\n<div class=\"sections\"><a class=\"category vertical vertical - music\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\">Music<\/a><br \/>\n\/<br \/>\n<a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/the-spring-2026-issue\">The Spring 2026 Issue<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h1 class=\"title\"><span>\u2018The internet was a bad parent to me\u2019: 2hollis and Arca <span class=\"nowrap\">in conversation<\/span><\/span><\/h1>\n<div class=\"standfirst\">\n<h2>He\u2019s the internet rap star on a mission to keep pop music weird, she\u2019s the cult producer and DJ who has been pushing boundaries for more than a decade. Here, they connect over their radical visions for <span class=\"nowrap\">the future<\/span><\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<p><time datetime=\"2026-03-03T17:00:00+00:00\" class=\"timestamp\" title=\"03 March 2026\"><span class=\"month\">March<\/span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<span class=\"day\" data-day=\"3\">3,<\/span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<span class=\"year\">2026<\/span><\/time><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"tags\">\n<div class=\"sections\"><a class=\"category vertical - music\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\">Music<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/the-spring-2026-issue\">The Spring 2026 Issue<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><time datetime=\"2026-03-03T17:00:00+00:00\" class=\"timestamp\" title=\"03 March 2026\"><span class=\"month\">March<\/span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<span class=\"day\" data-day=\"3\">3,<\/span>\u00a0<br \/>\n<span class=\"year\">2026<\/span><\/time><\/p>\n<div class=\"providers\">\n<div class=\"contributors\"><span class=\"contributor\" data-contributor-role=\"Text\"><span class=\"contributor-role\">Text<\/span><a class=\"contributor-name\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/user\/GunseliYalcinkaya\">G\u00fcnseli Yalcinkaya<\/a><\/span><span class=\"contributor\" data-contributor-role=\"Photography\"><span class=\"contributor-role\">Photography<\/span><a class=\"contributor-name\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/user\/ThueNorgaard\">Thue N\u00f8rgaard<\/a><\/span><span class=\"contributor\" data-contributor-role=\"Styling\"><span class=\"contributor-role\">Styling<\/span><a class=\"contributor-name\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/user\/EllieGraceCumming\">Ellie Grace Cumming<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"article-body-container\">\n<div class=\"article-body wrapper\">\n<div class=\"dazed-gallery has-11-images \">\n<div class=\"inner\">\n<header>\n<div class=\"info\"><span class=\"heading\">2hollis \u2013\u00a0The Spring <span class=\"nowrap\">2026 Issue<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"gallery\">\n<div class=\"gallery-thumbs\">\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36782\/0\/2hollis-the-spring-2026-issue\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/320\/0-0-1350-900\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439942.jpg\" width=\"1350\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36782\/1\/2hollis-the-spring-2026-issue\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"690\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/320\/0-0-1035-690\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439943.jpg\" width=\"1035\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36782\/2\/2hollis-the-spring-2026-issue\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"1335\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/320\/0-0-2002-1335\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439944.jpg\" width=\"2002\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36782\/3\/2hollis-the-spring-2026-issue\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"880\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/320\/0-0-1320-880\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439945.jpg\" width=\"1320\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36782\/4\/2hollis-the-spring-2026-issue\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013 The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"690\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/320\/0-108-1035-690\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439946.jpg\" width=\"1035\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-thumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/gallery\/36782\/5\/2hollis-the-spring-2026-issue\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"1365\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/320\/0-0-2048-1365\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439947.jpg\" width=\"2048\"><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-footer\">Gallery \/ 11 images<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><span><em>This story is taken from the spring 2026 issue of Dazed, which is on sale internationally from March 5. Pre-order a copy of the magazine\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.boutiquemags.com\/dpa\/add\/tocart\/id\/14592\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>If two musicians define pop culture pushed to its outermost limits today, it\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/arca\">Arca<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/2hollis\">2hollis<\/a>. Both are household names to a generation of art kids who will never own a house, pop unicorns whose willingness to go their own way has won them high-profile fans in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/bjork\">Bjo\u0308rk<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/frank-ocean\">Frank Ocean<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/lorde\">Lorde<\/a>, among others.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Fast becoming the internet\u2019s favourite rapper, Los Angeles-based 2hollis is the newer addition to music; a 22-year-old whose bleached-blonde hair and maximalist sound have inspired a cult-like fanbase that hangs on his every move. With a major-label debut, last year\u2019s <em>star<\/em>, now under his belt, the musician has found himself jokingly accused of \u201caura farming\u201d for the meticulous way he has crafted his lore, from alt accounts and aliases to an early online presence inspired by medieval mysticism. Some kids online are even calling him the \u201cmessiah\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>While Arca hardly needs an introduction, her multidimensional approach to sonic experimentalism and mutant club aesthetics continues to shape pop music, which she compares to a technology that \u201cconnects with the collective unconscious\u201d. No stranger to transformation, the Venezuelan-born electronic artist\u2019s <\/span><em><span>KiCk<\/span><\/em><span> series (2020-2021) was a cyborgian rebirth which remains one of the most ambitious and intensely personal musical projects of the 2020s. A shapeshifter moving between styles, emotions and genres, the one thing that remains constant is her status as a cult icon.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"b56feab9-8c5a-4778-aaba-b40200a1ad59\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1035\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439946.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013 The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"1350\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1035\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439946.jpg\" width=\"1035\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> I really think what you\u2019re doing is awesome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> I actually didn\u2019t know much about your music until we met. There was such an excitement around Chateau Marmont [iconic LA hotel and hangout], so many people moving through that space. But there was a distinct energy to you that stood out.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> I found you online maybe six years ago. I\u2019m online a lot. I think it was during Covid actually, when you released that project with the robot album cover.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> The <\/span><em><span>KiCk<\/span><\/em><span> series.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> Yeah, I love all of it, but <\/span><em><span>KiCk<\/span><\/em><span>, I love that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> It was a very meaningful time for me, in terms of my trajectory as a musician and a songwriter. It felt like I was leaning into a more expansive kind of world-building, to encourage that ambition, you know?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> For sure.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I was also online a lot around those times. I was doing livestreams, sharing my process of making music and trying to find a sense of community through the alienation at that time.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html-embed\">\n<div class=\"page\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<blockquote>\n<p><span>\u201c[Now is] the time to be a pop star <\/span><span>\u2013 if you want to be one, you should be one\u201d \u2013 <\/span><span>2hollis <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> Yeah, I came up on the internet. I don\u2019t know a world without it. I\u2019ve talked about this recently: I feel like a child of the internet. The internet was a bad parent to me in a lot of ways. But it\u2019s created who I am and I\u2019ve learned so much from it. I mean, it gave me a platform.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I can distinctly remember what it was like before being able to find community on the internet around the music that I loved. I remember being a teenager when the internet became more prevalent and everyone started uploading stuff to Myspace, which allowed me to find audiences outside of Venezuela, where I was born and living at the time. So I can also certainly relate to that profound desire to communicate with an audience and build a community around the music you love and the music you respect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I\u2019ve been actually very disconnected over the past month, and I\u2019m writing my next project, so I\u2019m deep in world-building and learning a lot about myself and having a lot of experiences that I feel were maybe a bit numbed when I was on the internet a lot.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Of course, it\u2019s not perfect. It can even be very perilous and very scary, to put it frankly. But I think if you approach it with an attitude of wanting to connect from a genuine place, it can allow for something really comforting and encouraging. I\u2019m not trying to silver-line it, but I guess there\u2019s a part of me that\u2019s stubbornly optimistic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I just want to clarify that when I\u2019m talking about the internet, I\u2019m not referring to my community, because I don\u2019t want to shit on my community. I love my fans and anyone who supports me. It\u2019s such a beautiful thing to see it go from the internet to real life. [But I do] find myself feeling a bit lost, maybe a bit lost in the sauce, when I\u2019m too much in the spotlight, too much on the stage, too extroverted. I\u2019m currently feeling a bit introverted. I\u2019ve just been writing every single day. I don\u2019t really leave my house. I think that\u2019s where I find myself the most inspired.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>There\u2019s something kind of necessary about giving yourself that space so that ideas can then emerge in a more profound way. I feel like I glean the most important reflections when I give myself time to rest away from the stage. That\u2019s where I usually get my most grounded reflections.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"15fa997f-6649-425c-9c90-b40200a1b0aa\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439947.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"2671\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1600\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439947.jpg\" width=\"2048\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"2c1cc323-d970-4d10-a2c3-b40200a1b615\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439949.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"2671\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1600\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439949.jpg\" width=\"2048\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I think we\u2019re witnessing the idea of music change in front of our eyes. Maybe this isn\u2019t the right way to word it, but I think pop music never existed. It was just what was popular, but it feels like we\u2019re witnessing a change in what the \u2018masses\u2019 enjoy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>I never even think about what people will like. I just do what I enjoy and surprise myself. But I feel like more than ever people want to hear something avant-garde or abstract. There was a long time of very down-the-middle, put-together pop music. Now it feels like people want to hear something new and different. What do you think?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I think pop is as close as it gets to a technology to connect with the collective unconscious. It can be oppressive too, in a creative sense, to force something into a rudimentary song structure. But it can also bring people together, so it really just depends on how you do it. The format has changed radically, but I like to think that pop in itself is uncategorical, and resists definition in a way that remains fluid.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Yeah, that\u2019s what I was trying to say. It remains fluid. But I have an optimistic view on pop music right now. I think it\u2019s reaching a place where the mainstream is going in a really cool direction, production-wise, and in terms of what people are into sonically. It\u2019s the time to be a pop star \u2013 if you want to be one you should be one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Oh, period, that sounds like a good mantra. I support that.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html-embed\">\n<div class=\"page\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<blockquote>\n<p><span>\u201cI feel like <\/span><span>a child of <\/span><span>the internet\u201d \u2013 2hollis<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I was just saying this to my friend, how everything should be fast. That\u2019s how I feel right now. Everything I want to do is quick: my songs are getting quicker, the way I\u2019m dressing feels even quicker, I want to have a faster car, I want to walk faster \u2013 I\u2019m down with everything being a bit of a racing car, I\u2019m down with the speed. I think it\u2019s sick.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I think there\u2019s something energising about that attitude.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Now more than ever, I think [you should] take time and pace yourself, but in a fast way. At least sonically, I\u2019m very inspired by fast, fast, fast and, of course, break. It\u2019s all about balance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I think the most honest thing to do is to just go towards the energy that you feel. Don\u2019t feel like that\u2019s where you always have to be. You can have lots of different parallels, the full spectrum is there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Yeah, that\u2019s very real.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Right now, I\u2019m kind of torn because there\u2019s an irresolvable identity crisis between the more funereal ballads in my sad music and then an escapist joy at the other extreme. Yet they are both a part of me and [I want] the spectrum of emotion to remain flexible and open. It\u2019s really not that easy to do honestly, but I think encouraging that in oneself is, in the end, healthy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>This year I\u2019ve decided to be more decisive and trust my first instinct a little more. I\u2019m talking a lot to myself, but that\u2019s something I wanted to work on. This in itself could be a form of quickness, in a way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>That is super helpful for me to hear, actually, because I have been emerging from an introverted period, making lots of music but not necessarily sharing it with the world as much. There\u2019s a pendulum. If there\u2019s too much chaos, maybe it\u2019s good to have some structure. But if there\u2019s too much comfort it\u2019s good to be a bit more decisive, so as to catalyse and change and not stagnate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Being on tour is probably the most intense experience that I\u2019ve ever had. It\u2019s non-stop. I found myself having repeated nightmares \u2013 I was just passing through so many places and energies and picking up on things. I am very sensitive to where I sleep. But there\u2019s also the physical aspect; you\u2019re just drained. I\u2019m jumping on stage for an hour and during the first few tours I did, I had such bad shin splints that I would be on the verge of tears after every show. So that was another thing, dealing with waking up and not being able to walk. But it\u2019s coupled with so much. It\u2019s everything you\u2019re doing it for \u2013 the fans \u2013 and it\u2019s the most beautiful thing ever. It\u2019s just a lot on the body, the mind, the nervous system, the spirit, all the rest.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"0d754823-7ddd-4263-a215-b40200a1b873\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1350\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439950.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.27\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"1063\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1350\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439950.jpg\" width=\"1350\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>There\u2019s also that first chapter when you are expressing all of this new energy out in the world. I can also remember times when, during my shows, there was a degree of almost self-harm. It\u2019s not that it was encouraged, but people saw it as an expression of a rawness that I needed to express, so it was more like they allowed it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>However, you can also trust that your fans have your back and want to see you enjoy the show more. So it can change, and it can still be just as exciting or even more exciting in new ways, if you allow yourself a more gentle approach. Your fans will still be there. In fact, I think they might appreciate that you take care of yourself more.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>For sure. I\u2019ll never forget the first concert I ever played. It was in a tiny basement in New York City, and from that moment on I never looked at what I created the same. Not in a bad way, I was just so excited to play live and see the reaction of the crowd. Playing a new song for a crowd for the first time is one of the best feelings ever. It pushes me to go harder and create more and just feel like I have an audience who\u2019s ready to lose their mind when this one\u2019s out, you know? That\u2019s a dope feeling.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>It\u2019s uplifting for you and for the audience, so there\u2019s a magic to that.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html-embed\">\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>What was the first show you ever played?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Well, the first piano recital I played, which was my first experience of having an audience, was at music conservatory when I was eight years old. I distinctly remember feeling like it was a great thing that I was able to bring my family together. So I continued [performing] as I studied classical music, because it would be the only time my family could be in the same room without arguing. I don\u2019t think I ever fully outgrew that desire to bring people together, now that I think about it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>That\u2019s beautiful. The first actual performance I did was also a piano recital, when I was 12. I was so nervous, my hands were shaking and I didn\u2019t play it that well. But I remember a similar thing: my mom and dad being there, even though they weren\u2019t together, [so] I can really relate to that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>It\u2019s good to honour that. Wanting to bring everyone together through art&#8230; Hollis, are you still down to make some music together? I think that would be so fun.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>For sure. I\u2019m very down.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"page\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p><em>Hair Kim Rance at MA+ Group, make-up Niamh Quinn at LGA Management using Byredo, photographic assistants Harry Hawkes, Joe Petini, styling assistants Bella Kavanagh, Sam Thapa, tailoring Valeriane Venance, hair assistant Sam Groeneveld, production Rachel Connors at Alana Productions.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-series header article-series tags\"><span class=\"heading\">More on these topics:<\/span><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\">Music<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/the-spring-2026-issue\">The Spring 2026 Issue<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/feature\">Feature<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/tag\/2hollis\">2hollis<\/a><a class=\"series\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/tag\/arca\">Arca<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"image-navigation\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/news\/\" class=\"image-navigation__img one\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image-navigation__wrapper\">\n<h3 class=\"image-navigation__title\">News<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/fashion\/\" class=\"image-navigation__img two\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image-navigation__wrapper\">\n<h3 class=\"image-navigation__title\">Fashion<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/music\/\" class=\"image-navigation__img three\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image-navigation__wrapper\">\n<h3 class=\"image-navigation__title\">Music<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/film-tv\/\" class=\"image-navigation__img four\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image-navigation__wrapper\">\n<h3 class=\"image-navigation__title\">Film &amp; 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Pre-order a copy of the magazine\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.boutiquemags.com\/dpa\/add\/tocart\/id\/14592\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>If two musicians define pop culture pushed to its outermost limits today, it\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/arca\">Arca<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/2hollis\">2hollis<\/a>. Both are household names to a generation of art kids who will never own a house, pop unicorns whose willingness to go their own way has won them high-profile fans in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/bjork\">Bjo\u0308rk<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/frank-ocean\">Frank Ocean<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dazeddigital.com\/lorde\">Lorde<\/a>, among others.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Fast becoming the internet\u2019s favourite rapper, Los Angeles-based 2hollis is the newer addition to music; a 22-year-old whose bleached-blonde hair and maximalist sound have inspired a cult-like fanbase that hangs on his every move. With a major-label debut, last year\u2019s <em>star<\/em>, now under his belt, the musician has found himself jokingly accused of \u201caura farming\u201d for the meticulous way he has crafted his lore, from alt accounts and aliases to an early online presence inspired by medieval mysticism. Some kids online are even calling him the \u201cmessiah\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>While Arca hardly needs an introduction, her multidimensional approach to sonic experimentalism and mutant club aesthetics continues to shape pop music, which she compares to a technology that \u201cconnects with the collective unconscious\u201d. No stranger to transformation, the Venezuelan-born electronic artist\u2019s <\/span><em><span>KiCk<\/span><\/em><span> series (2020-2021) was a cyborgian rebirth which remains one of the most ambitious and intensely personal musical projects of the 2020s. A shapeshifter moving between styles, emotions and genres, the one thing that remains constant is her status as a cult icon.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"b56feab9-8c5a-4778-aaba-b40200a1ad59\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1035\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439946.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013 The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"1350\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1035\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439946.jpg\" width=\"1035\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> I really think what you\u2019re doing is awesome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> I actually didn\u2019t know much about your music until we met. There was such an excitement around Chateau Marmont [iconic LA hotel and hangout], so many people moving through that space. But there was a distinct energy to you that stood out.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> I found you online maybe six years ago. I\u2019m online a lot. I think it was during Covid actually, when you released that project with the robot album cover.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> The <\/span><em><span>KiCk<\/span><\/em><span> series.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> Yeah, I love all of it, but <\/span><em><span>KiCk<\/span><\/em><span>, I love that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca:<\/strong><span> It was a very meaningful time for me, in terms of my trajectory as a musician and a songwriter. It felt like I was leaning into a more expansive kind of world-building, to encourage that ambition, you know?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> For sure.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I was also online a lot around those times. I was doing livestreams, sharing my process of making music and trying to find a sense of community through the alienation at that time.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html-embed\">\n<div class=\"page\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<blockquote>\n<p><span>\u201c[Now is] the time to be a pop star <\/span><span>\u2013 if you want to be one, you should be one\u201d \u2013 <\/span><span>2hollis <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>2hollis:<\/strong><span> Yeah, I came up on the internet. I don\u2019t know a world without it. I\u2019ve talked about this recently: I feel like a child of the internet. The internet was a bad parent to me in a lot of ways. But it\u2019s created who I am and I\u2019ve learned so much from it. I mean, it gave me a platform.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I can distinctly remember what it was like before being able to find community on the internet around the music that I loved. I remember being a teenager when the internet became more prevalent and everyone started uploading stuff to Myspace, which allowed me to find audiences outside of Venezuela, where I was born and living at the time. So I can also certainly relate to that profound desire to communicate with an audience and build a community around the music you love and the music you respect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I\u2019ve been actually very disconnected over the past month, and I\u2019m writing my next project, so I\u2019m deep in world-building and learning a lot about myself and having a lot of experiences that I feel were maybe a bit numbed when I was on the internet a lot.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Of course, it\u2019s not perfect. It can even be very perilous and very scary, to put it frankly. But I think if you approach it with an attitude of wanting to connect from a genuine place, it can allow for something really comforting and encouraging. I\u2019m not trying to silver-line it, but I guess there\u2019s a part of me that\u2019s stubbornly optimistic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I just want to clarify that when I\u2019m talking about the internet, I\u2019m not referring to my community, because I don\u2019t want to shit on my community. I love my fans and anyone who supports me. It\u2019s such a beautiful thing to see it go from the internet to real life. [But I do] find myself feeling a bit lost, maybe a bit lost in the sauce, when I\u2019m too much in the spotlight, too much on the stage, too extroverted. I\u2019m currently feeling a bit introverted. I\u2019ve just been writing every single day. I don\u2019t really leave my house. I think that\u2019s where I find myself the most inspired.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>There\u2019s something kind of necessary about giving yourself that space so that ideas can then emerge in a more profound way. I feel like I glean the most important reflections when I give myself time to rest away from the stage. That\u2019s where I usually get my most grounded reflections.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"15fa997f-6649-425c-9c90-b40200a1b0aa\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439947.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"2671\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1600\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439947.jpg\" width=\"2048\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"2c1cc323-d970-4d10-a2c3-b40200a1b615\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/2000\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439949.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"0.77\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"portrait\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"2671\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1600\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439949.jpg\" width=\"2048\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I think we\u2019re witnessing the idea of music change in front of our eyes. Maybe this isn\u2019t the right way to word it, but I think pop music never existed. It was just what was popular, but it feels like we\u2019re witnessing a change in what the \u2018masses\u2019 enjoy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>I never even think about what people will like. I just do what I enjoy and surprise myself. But I feel like more than ever people want to hear something avant-garde or abstract. There was a long time of very down-the-middle, put-together pop music. Now it feels like people want to hear something new and different. What do you think?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I think pop is as close as it gets to a technology to connect with the collective unconscious. It can be oppressive too, in a creative sense, to force something into a rudimentary song structure. But it can also bring people together, so it really just depends on how you do it. The format has changed radically, but I like to think that pop in itself is uncategorical, and resists definition in a way that remains fluid.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Yeah, that\u2019s what I was trying to say. It remains fluid. But I have an optimistic view on pop music right now. I think it\u2019s reaching a place where the mainstream is going in a really cool direction, production-wise, and in terms of what people are into sonically. It\u2019s the time to be a pop star \u2013 if you want to be one you should be one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Oh, period, that sounds like a good mantra. I support that.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html-embed\">\n<div class=\"page\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<blockquote>\n<p><span>\u201cI feel like <\/span><span>a child of <\/span><span>the internet\u201d \u2013 2hollis<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>I was just saying this to my friend, how everything should be fast. That\u2019s how I feel right now. Everything I want to do is quick: my songs are getting quicker, the way I\u2019m dressing feels even quicker, I want to have a faster car, I want to walk faster \u2013 I\u2019m down with everything being a bit of a racing car, I\u2019m down with the speed. I think it\u2019s sick.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I think there\u2019s something energising about that attitude.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Now more than ever, I think [you should] take time and pace yourself, but in a fast way. At least sonically, I\u2019m very inspired by fast, fast, fast and, of course, break. It\u2019s all about balance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>I think the most honest thing to do is to just go towards the energy that you feel. Don\u2019t feel like that\u2019s where you always have to be. You can have lots of different parallels, the full spectrum is there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Yeah, that\u2019s very real.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Right now, I\u2019m kind of torn because there\u2019s an irresolvable identity crisis between the more funereal ballads in my sad music and then an escapist joy at the other extreme. Yet they are both a part of me and [I want] the spectrum of emotion to remain flexible and open. It\u2019s really not that easy to do honestly, but I think encouraging that in oneself is, in the end, healthy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>This year I\u2019ve decided to be more decisive and trust my first instinct a little more. I\u2019m talking a lot to myself, but that\u2019s something I wanted to work on. This in itself could be a form of quickness, in a way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>That is super helpful for me to hear, actually, because I have been emerging from an introverted period, making lots of music but not necessarily sharing it with the world as much. There\u2019s a pendulum. If there\u2019s too much chaos, maybe it\u2019s good to have some structure. But if there\u2019s too much comfort it\u2019s good to be a bit more decisive, so as to catalyse and change and not stagnate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>Being on tour is probably the most intense experience that I\u2019ve ever had. It\u2019s non-stop. I found myself having repeated nightmares \u2013 I was just passing through so many places and energies and picking up on things. I am very sensitive to where I sleep. But there\u2019s also the physical aspect; you\u2019re just drained. I\u2019m jumping on stage for an hour and during the first few tours I did, I had such bad shin splints that I would be on the verge of tears after every show. So that was another thing, dealing with waking up and not being able to walk. But it\u2019s coupled with so much. It\u2019s everything you\u2019re doing it for \u2013 the fans \u2013 and it\u2019s the most beautiful thing ever. It\u2019s just a lot on the body, the mind, the nervous system, the spirit, all the rest.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"inline-img expandable dev-view-hide\" data-img=\"0d754823-7ddd-4263-a215-b40200a1b873\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1350\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439950.jpg\" data-img-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\" data-img-aspect-ratio=\"1.27\"><span class=\"has-css-custom-props image-container\" data-aspect-ratio-type=\"landscape\"><span class=\"preserve-aspect-ratio\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"2hollis \u2013&#160;The Spring 2026 Issue\" class=\"img\" height=\"1063\" src=\"https:\/\/images-prod.dazeddigital.com\/1350\/azure\/dazed-prod\/1430\/9\/1439950.jpg\" width=\"1350\"><\/span><\/span><figcaption class=\"img-caption\"><span class=\"credit\">Photography Thue N\u00f8rgaard, styling Ellie <span class=\"nowrap\">Grace Cumming<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html\">\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>There\u2019s also that first chapter when you are expressing all of this new energy out in the world. I can also remember times when, during my shows, there was a degree of almost self-harm. It\u2019s not that it was encouraged, but people saw it as an expression of a rawness that I needed to express, so it was more like they allowed it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>However, you can also trust that your fans have your back and want to see you enjoy the show more. So it can change, and it can still be just as exciting or even more exciting in new ways, if you allow yourself a more gentle approach. Your fans will still be there. In fact, I think they might appreciate that you take care of yourself more.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>For sure. I\u2019ll never forget the first concert I ever played. It was in a tiny basement in New York City, and from that moment on I never looked at what I created the same. Not in a bad way, I was just so excited to play live and see the reaction of the crowd. Playing a new song for a crowd for the first time is one of the best feelings ever. It pushes me to go harder and create more and just feel like I have an audience who\u2019s ready to lose their mind when this one\u2019s out, you know? That\u2019s a dope feeling.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>It\u2019s uplifting for you and for the audience, so there\u2019s a magic to that.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-content\" data-embed-type=\"raw-html-embed\">\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>What was the first show you ever played?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>Well, the first piano recital I played, which was my first experience of having an audience, was at music conservatory when I was eight years old. I distinctly remember feeling like it was a great thing that I was able to bring my family together. So I continued [performing] as I studied classical music, because it would be the only time my family could be in the same room without arguing. I don\u2019t think I ever fully outgrew that desire to bring people together, now that I think about it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>That\u2019s beautiful. The first actual performance I did was also a piano recital, when I was 12. I was so nervous, my hands were shaking and I didn\u2019t play it that well. But I remember a similar thing: my mom and dad being there, even though they weren\u2019t together, [so] I can really relate to that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Arca: <\/strong><span>It\u2019s good to honour that. Wanting to bring everyone together through art&#8230; Hollis, are you still down to make some music together? I think that would be so fun.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>2hollis: <\/strong><span>For sure. 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